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This is Why You Can’t Change Someone’s Mind With Facts

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You’re arguing politics with a random stranger on the Internet, reasonably sharing facts that support your argument while asking for them to do the same. You can tell they’re getting irritated, and the further into the discussion you go, the more facts you cite in your argument, the more they get upset.

They start playing semantic games, deliberately misunderstand what you’re saying, run through the full list of logical fallacies, and eventually resort to outright hostility.

Why?

Why would anyone care more about winning an argument with a stranger than having their understanding of a subject reflect actual reality, so they can make rational decisions about that subject going forward? Why would anyone deliberately choose to be wrong, and then get upset when others try to correct them?

Because certain beliefs are a core part of some people’s core identity. So by attacking their beliefs, you’re attacking “them”.

Think about that woman at work who wears tie-dyed shirts, hangs dream catchers in her cubicle, and is always trying to sell you essential oils. You’re socially obligated to be friends on Facebook, but you’re tired of seeing outright nonsense from people like David Wolfe come through your feed. Yet, if you reply to some meme she shared by one those hucksters, that “no, hanging upside down does not cure the ‘toxic effects of gravity’, that’s not how anything works and here’s the Wikipedia article on Toxin to show that they’re not even using that word correctly”, at the very least she’ll make it awkward around the water cooler, if not start some unnecessary workplace drama.

Goddamnit, Janice, why do these TPS reports always have avocado stains on them?

But why though? For the same reason that she wears those tie-dyed shirts and hangs up those dream catchers: that’s who she is. And by correcting her, you’re chipping away at the identity she’s constructed for herself. It’s like telling the guy who’s spent tens of thousands of dollars on NFL memorabilia that you think it’s a bit ridiculous to be that interested in a sport you don’t play yourself: right or wrong, fact or opinion, it’s an attack on the person they see themselves as being.

The actual Science behind this

Neuroscientists Jonas Kaplan, Sarah Gimbel, and Sam Harris (yes, that Sam Harris) conducted a study in which they attempted to isolate regions of the brain operating when a person is presented with facts that contradict their beliefs. Here’s the abstract:

People often discount evidence that contradicts their firmly held beliefs. However, little is known about the neural mechanisms that govern this behavior. We used neuroimaging to investigate the neural systems involved in maintaining belief in the face of counterevidence, presenting 40 liberals with arguments that contradicted their strongly held political and non-political views. Challenges to political beliefs produced increased activity in the default mode network—a set of interconnected structures associated with self-representation and disengagement from the external world. Trials with greater belief resistance showed increased response in the dorsomedial prefrontal cortex and decreased activity in the orbitofrontal cortex. We also found that participants who changed their minds more showed less BOLD signal in the insula and the amygdala when evaluating counterevidence. These results highlight the role of emotion in belief-change resistance and offer insight into the neural systems involved in belief maintenance, motivated reasoning, and related phenomena.

Essentially, the portions of the brain that were stimulated with thoughts that contradict belief are related to or overlap with the portions that are associated with identity. Further, based on this study, and a similar study conducted by this groupbeliefs on politics and religion are much more likely to engage the area associated with identity. 

We’re going to refrain from drawing any conclusions here; the Science is ongoing and certainly far from settled –just like that argument you’re having with the guy who has a cartoon frog for a profile picture, over whether or not it’s okay to punch someone who advocates for genocide.

The Rarest Pepe: Science Pepe. Share if you want people to think you’re into Science and the wholesale extermination of other races

Who knows, maybe all it’d take to solve a lot of these arguments, is an old-fashioned punch right to the dosrsomedial prefrontal cortex. Isn’t Science great?

08 Impeachment 2020

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We’re releasing this “emergency” episode of the podcast to address all the misinformation about impeachment. Unlike your alcoholic uncle or the manager of the Jiffy Lube you went to high school with that’s somehow still on your friends list, our guest, Derek Debus, actually has a law degree and he breaks down this whole thing in a non-partisan, BS-free manner.

Stay tuned after the credits for an information update recorded today!

This Article Proves I’m Right and You’re Wrong

After extensive research backed by longitudinal meta-analysis and careful cross-sectional population sampling, a team of academics and scientists have recently published a groundbreaking study that concludes with the rather surprising discovery that you’re not going to read this article regardless of what it proves because you’ve made up your own mind and facts don’t matter and fuck you.

The study goes on to demonstrate that there’s a significant chance (p <0.05) that even I didn’t read this article I just posted in support of my argument, neither of us understands statistics, and that within μ+3 replies one of us is going to resort to calling the other a “libtard” or a “fascist” depending on our respective ideologies.

Pictured: smart people working very hard to discover information you won’t give a shit about unless it supports what you already believe.

So since the content of this article which totally proves me right doesn’t matter either way, here’s a recipe for the world’s greatest goddamn chili:

Fletcher’s F-Yeah America (Texas) Chili

Ingredients:

2 lbs steak, cubed

2 lbs Jimmy Dean “Sage” breakfast sausage

2 lbs bacon (your preference, but not sweetened/maple)

1 gallon H.E.B salsa or Pace medium picante sauce

Cumin, various other seasonings

Corn Masa

Vegan(s)

Duct Tape

Instructions:

Feel free to sample the uncooked sausage if you’re a Natural News reader.

Into a large gumbo pot, dump the entire goddamn gallon of salsa and let it simmer. Is simmer the right word for letting it warm up slowly? I dunno, this is the first time I’ve written an actual recipe. Who gives a shit, really?

Cook the meats, and dump them all into the pot as you’re done. Brown the sausage like ground beef for cheap homemade tacos people who don’t live in Texas think are actual tacos, breaking it into smaller chunks with your spatula to ensure it’s fully cooked if you care about the people you’re feeding, or don’t because trichinosis is hilarious. Save about a quarter of the bacon to sprinkle on top of the chili (again, cooked or raw, depending on how much you hate people).

Season everything to taste, but Cumin should be the primary flavor unless you’re an asshole; it’s your chili now, I don’t want anything to do with it.

Once everything’s in the pot, let simmer (or WHATEVER) for a while and then stir in corn masa to thicken. This is the key to the whole damn thing so don’t skip this step or you’re going to end up with some tomatoey bullshit. I’m not kidding. Keep adding masa until the whole thing is thick enough to eat with a fork.

These, you uncultured carpetbagging Californian… Stop moving to Austin

Get your H.E.B. store-brand tortilla chips, the kind they make in-house, not the kind that come in bags like all the other, weak-ass tortilla chips non-Texans have to deal with in their tiny, pathetic lives. Eat the chili with the chips, eat it with a fork. If you add goldfish crackers to it like my ex-girlfriend did I’ll fucking dig up your ancestors and sell their bones as jewelry on Etsy or something.

Share with friends, then Like the chili on Facebook because, let’s be honest, that’s all that really matters any more, right?

07 – Movies with Matt Foster

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Comedian and movie critic Matt Foster is one half of the movie review team from The Nighthawks Podcast. He’s also better known to the members of the Bullshido community as JohnnyCache.

Matt joins us for a roller coaster of a conversation about movies, BS, and movie BS. We cover Tarantino’s take on Bruce Lee in “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”, Joker, whether or not Steven Seagal shat his pants and is a sexual predator of underage girls, Woody Allen, why Woody Allen isn’t in jail or France, the connection between Art Bell and Eddie Bravo, and more.

Listen below or on iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, and Google Play.

But seriously…

There are more Scientists Named “Steve” Who Support Evolution than All Others Who Deny It

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Have you ever encountered an idea so stupid that the only response it deserves is to do something exponentially stupider? Now imagine that you’ve dedicated your life to being an expert in that thing on which the stupidity is rampant.

Short of drinking, or banging your head into a desk, what else is there to do?

That’s what happened when Project Steve came together, to collect all the scientists named Steve, or Stephen, etc., who were flabbergasted that there were ding-dongs calling themselves scientists arguing against evolution. It was a veritable..

Shut up, my kid likes the show and it grew on me.

…compared to the number of non-Steves, or rather, everyone else who argued against Darwinian selection as the method by which life exists in its current form on Earth.

Here’s their official statement:

“Evolution is a vital, well-supported, unifying principle of the biological sciences, and the scientific evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of the idea that all living things share a common ancestry. Although there are legitimate debates about the patterns and processes of evolution, there is no serious scientific doubt that evolution occurred or that natural selection is a major mechanism in its occurrence. It is scientifically inappropriate and pedagogically irresponsible for creationist pseudoscience, including but not limited to “intelligent design,” to be introduced into the science curricula of our nation’s public schools.”

The project was named in honor of evolutionary biologist Stephen J. Gould. This guy:

Stephen J Gould
Just so…

A Brief History of the Bullshit

From about five minutes after Darwin published “On the Origin of Species” continuing until right now as I’m typing this, people have been doing all sorts of cognitive contortions to dismiss, deny, or ignore the overwhelming evidence that the creatures we see today weren’t created by a supernatural entity, but rather, shaped by incremental natural processes over millions and millions of years.

But after settling down for almost a century (at least in the United States), the 1980’s saw a resurgence of the attempts to insinuate faith-based—as opposed to actual evidence-based—explanations of how life developed. So-called “Intelligent Design” was the latest trojan horse attempt to sneak religious belief into science classrooms, with creationists insinuating themselves onto school boards and regulatory panels to cast doubt on evolution, or in some cases, eliminate it completely from the curriculum.

Yes, that is a goddamn dinosaur in a pen, which is featured in the Ark Experience museum run by creationists. In Kentucky. Because, of course, it’s in Kentucky.

Dover Panda Trial

The efforts of creationists to jam the flaccid Intelligent Design story into children’s understanding of science came to a sloppy end as a coalition of angry, critical thinking citizens took the Dover, Pennsylvania school board to court for requiring it be taught as actual science to their kids. In the 2005 decision, Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, the court recognized that Intelligent Design was not even remotely scientific, and the Dover school board were a bunch of dipshits; legally speaking of course. Indeed, the next election cycle, 8 of the 9 members on the board were voted to fuck off into the sunset. Thank god.

Unfortunately, (and of course), that’s not going to be the end of it. As with everything else, we need to remain vigilant against bad ideas if we want American kids to grow up to be the kind of adults who base important decisions on evidence, rather than BS. Decisions like, say… voting, for one.

How to Win the Annual Family Fight at the Thanksgiving Table

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The tradition of gathering with people you’re biologically-obligated to give a crap about is upon us. But this year, given the never-before-seen levels of absurdity in politics and the shrieking outrage on both sides of the culture war, sitting down and dumping gravy on all your problems isn’t an option.

Or is it?

For the past few decades, Bullshido has established itself as a community dedicated to helping people fight BS in the world, from spotting fake news and pseudoscience, to arming you with the weapons needed to cut through that BS. And so, of course, you could expect us to tackle this topic from the same perspective, and help you win an argument with some of your not-so-loved-ones at the Thanksgiving table.

But nah, we’re not going to do that.

If you really are hoping for that kind of piece because you’re a well-adjusted person who is genuinely looking forward to sharing the day with your friends and family, PolitiFact has one on How to Fact Check your Family on Thanksgiving, and it’s much more reasonable and considered than anything that follows from this point on.

As we’ve noted in the past, you’re more than likely never going to change the opinions of people who have their personal identity wrapped up in those opinions, because on a neurological level their brains can’t tell the difference and an attack on their views is processed the same as an attack on them, personally. So have you considered, just for a moment, simply punching them?

Welcome to Thunderdome

“For the LAST time Tanner, Andrew Yang is only polling at 5% because the media refuses to give him coverage!”

Every family situation is unique, so we won’t lower ourselves to referencing tropes or stereotypes here. Sure, you probably have an alcoholic uncle or two. Your father-in-law probably watches Fox News with his pants around his ankles and a raging hate-rection, and at least one sibling or cousin or random +1 college freshman has gone Full-Woke and won’t even put ass-to-chair before having already calculated everyone’s individual Privilege Quotient with their newfound Intersectional Calculus skills.

This might not have been a problem in previous years, but with everything going on in the world now, anyone who’s paid any attention to it has completely depleted their reserves of patience and every veneer of politeness has more cracks in it than that overcooked turkey you’re about to be served. (Thanks, Karen.)

But don’t fear, here’s the “one simple solution” to all your problems!

Be Polite, Be Courteous, Be Able to Kick Every Ass in the Room

This family is effin READY for those ungrateful savages to show up on Thursday

Think about it for a second. What’s the absolute worst immediate consequence of a Thanksgiving day family argument spiraling out of control?

If your immediate answer wasn’t “violence”, then congratulations on being born into a television sitcom family. For everyone else, if you’re being honest with yourselves, no matter how unlikely the prospect of a heated argument coming to blows may be, it’s not out of the realm of possibility. And of course, that would be the worst-case scenario by just about anyone’s standards.

HOWEVER-big-fuckin’-comma, if you’re capable of kicking everyone’s ass—from your senile Aunt Gertrude who still thinks we’re fighting the Soviets (and is accidentally not so wrong about that, as it happens), to your cousin Kyle who “rolled coal” all the way down your street before parking in the front yard—you can breathe a small sigh of relief. Why? Because in that worst-case scenario, you’d not only be perfectly okay, you’re the one who’d come out on top.

From a psychological perspective, anything that happens in this scenario is within your ability to control. So worrying about who might say what is just a waste of your energy. To be clear, we’re not arguing you should kick anyone’s ass. But knowing you have the ability to do so puts what’s called the “locus of control” within you, rather than in others. And while the concept proposed by psychologist Julian Rotter isn’t generally applied in the context of being able to monkey-stomp people, much less your own family, it is nonetheless strongly correlated with decreased levels of stress and all-around general well-being. And what would provide a greater sense of well-being than knowing that if you wanted to drag Kyle out of your house by the TruckNutz for dropping an N-bomb, there isn’t a damn thing he could do to stop you?

Sources and More Info

Kaplan, J., Gimbel, S. & Harris, S. Neural correlates of maintaining one’s political beliefs in the face of counterevidence. Sci Rep6, 39589 (2016) doi:10.1038/srep39589 https://www.nature.com/articles/srep39589

Roddenberry, A., & Renk, K. (2010). Locus of Control and Self-Efficacy: Potential Mediators of Stress, Illness, and Utilization of Health Services in College Students. Child Psychiatry & Human Development41(4), 353–370. doi: 10.1007/s10578-010-0173-6 https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10578-010-0173-6

Rotter, J. B. (1966). Generalized expectancies for internal versus external control of reinforcement. Psychological Monographs: General and Applied80(1), 1–28. doi: 10.1037/h0092976 https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fh0092976

06 Police Shootings

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Are “all cops bastards”, or is there something else going on that may explain why we’re seeing more stories about police shootings in the media lately?

For this episode of The Art of Fighting BS Podcast we bring back Firearms and Tactics Instructor, former Marine, and (now) Attorney, Derek Debus to discuss the particulars surrounding recent controversial shootings by police and the reasons behind them. We discuss the cases of Amber Guyers and Botham Jean, Daniel Shaver, Atatiana Jefferson, and Michael Brown, their differences and similarities, and identify a possible common cause connecting them all.

Click the “Play” button below to listen to the episode now, or subscribe to the podcast on your favorite service from the links on the right of the page (iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, Google).

05 Andrew Vaillencourt

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Andrew “Scrapper” Vaillencourt is a Science Fiction author and Engineer with a background in Judo and MMA that is incorporated into his fight scenes which is, frankly, a breath of fresh air to anyone who both enjoys SciFi and actually knows how to fight.

How many SciFi authors do you think can deadlift over 400 lbs?

We spend a good chunk of time talking about SciFi in today’s media landscape, veer down Bullshido forums memory lane for a bit, off a cliff about alcohol, and then everyone makes fun of Phrost for his choice of drink for that evening’s conversation. (Whatever, screw you guys).

You can check all his work on his website, and pick up both his “Fixer” and “Hegemony” series’ on Amazon, Audible, or a bunch of other places.

Book 1 of Vaillencourt’s “The Fixer” series. All ass-kicking cyborg mayhem, none of the sanctimonious bullshit politics.

Click the “Play” button below to listen now, or subscribe via iTunes, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play via the buttons on the right.

04 The Antifa Episode

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Prepare to have your proverbial jimmies rustled. The Bullshido crew talk to a longtime member of “Antifa” to get their story. Gerry Bello has been involved with Antifa and Anti Racist Action for over 30 years, and provides his insights on the why and how of that network—including the fact that it is a network, not an organization.

For those of you who are not of the caliber or cognitive constitution to process views outside of your bias bubble, you’ll probably want to skip this one—but that’s only because you’re a saggy testicle of a human being and should feel ashamed of yourself.

For the rest of you who have the ideological fortitude to plow forward despite acknowledged biases, you might learn something. We certainly did, and can say that independent of our own personal views on the subject; which, as always, are independent from the editorial views Bullshido presents in our mission to highlight bullshit wherever it may exist. And lately, it exists in giant piles on both ends of the political spectrum and the squishy middle as well.

Gerry Bello

Gerry Bello can be found at MockingbirdPaper.com (where you can find his breakdown/takedown of Andy Ngo’s “milkshaking” referenced in the podcast), and probably one or twelve hit lists by white supremacists. He also has a few books on Amazon, and makes an appearance in this Sundance film festival documentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKyPLyxA_Z8
(Lucky you, it’s the whole documentary, free. Feel free to circle back to this later, but listen to the podcast first for better context.)

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Discuss it all here on the Bullshido Forums.

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