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    PLEASE understand that I would NEVER write or post anything like That.
    I don't know who did, but I got a pretty good idea and his initials are "SCR"...and you guys @ Bullshido ROCK. Thank you for letting me know about this.
    Sincerely, Timothy R Hellerich.

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    I DON'T do stuff like that & I don't know a "BRAD STINE". Why doesn't someone just call and talk to me about it? I'd like to redeem myself here. Sincerely, Timbo.
    PS. Not too many people come to my school without joining. In fact there have only been two. Which one were you, Luosnomed?
    Last edited by TRHellerich; 5/02/2007 4:04pm at .

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    Hey Tim,

    No one believes you did. BFM is explaining why he sat on the email.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake
    Hey Tim,

    No one believes you did. BFM is explaining why he sat on the email.
    in other words ... I didn't want to drag all this crap out and disturb you until I knew we had someone in the area to see WTF is going on with the school smearing/(poor)troll campaign .

    Sorry for the miscommunication . I figured you (Tim) were either guilty as hell and would step up to spar OR it was a BS smear job on your school ... which would lead us all to the real Bullshit eventually .

    So to be clear ... I believe you ( if you are Tim ) and am asking you for more info about this quote :
    Quote Originally Posted by TRHellerich
    but I litterally have to deal with this stuff on a daily basis.
    so , if possible , we can help you put a stop to the BS you are dealing with .
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Paula-Satire
    Never believe that the GOP and fellow bigots are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The bigots and Republicans have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past and that besides, they have already won

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    Huh?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luosnomed
    we just ignore him at my school. He is in a LONG list of f**ktards that "teach" in the STL, but when ya step in there face or in there school doors. They nut up

    If you guys want ill stop in both schools and get some info from them on Saturday.

    from what i remember ray is from the world tae kwon do schools from around here, which is another school full of s**t. and cholsom, him and his cronies are a joke too.
    but i know you guys hate news without the proof. so since i live in stl. ill do some leg work

    but ive seen both schools in "action" and dam near laughed so hard i almost passed out
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    WOW?!?!?!?! "f***tard"??, "ya step in there face or in there school doors. They nut up"??

    That's really something... Oh yeah, and it has NEVER happened...EVER.
    DUDE, Who are you?
    Step up & tell me who you are.
    I'm RIGHT here. I got nothin' to hide. Give me a call.
    AND I will completely refrain from doing the same BS you are doing...ie: name-calling, e-bashing, LYING, etc. Just let me know who you are, HUH?
    Last edited by TRHellerich; 5/02/2007 4:18pm at .

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    The internet is not as easy as it looks; make sure comments are addressed toward you before you take offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRHellerich
    WOW?!?!?!?! "fucktard"??, "ya step in there face or in there school doors. They nut up"??

    That's really something... Oh yeah, and it has NEVER happened...EVER.
    DUDE, Who are you?
    Grow a pair & tell me who you are.
    I'm RIGHT here! Lettin' it all hang out. I got nothin' to hide.
    AND I will completely refrain from doing the same BS you are doing...ie: name-calling, e-bashing, LYING, etc. Just let me know who you are, HUH?
    1.Get verified ( so we know this isn't another troll job )
    2.Get a feel for the site
    3.Then pick your battles

    I don't know who or what the hell that other guy (Luosnomed and just fyi : "demonsouL" backwards ) was/is talking about .

    Supposedly you should see him today ( Saturday ) sometime ... should have already seen him cause he was talking about stopping by both schools in the morning .
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Paula-Satire
    Never believe that the GOP and fellow bigots are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The bigots and Republicans have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past and that besides, they have already won

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    I went ahead and emailed S.C.Ray (Master) and invited him to come talk with us .

    I know it is :deadhorse at this point but I wanted to make sure I did what I could to get everyone some feed back on neutral ground .
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Paula-Satire
    Never believe that the GOP and fellow bigots are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The bigots and Republicans have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past and that besides, they have already won

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    Email received : From S.C. Ray (e-mails modified to foil spammers]
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    Master Ray <masterrayathesbcglobal.net> 10:51 am (4 hours ago)
    to BackFist Monkey <backfistmonkeyathegmail.com>
    date Apr 22, 2007 10:51 AM

    Greetings Sir,

    Thank you for your email. I have checked our database for a student with that email address and was unsuccessful in finding it. I don't believe they have anything to do with our school. If I find out different, I will inform you and provide the proper discipline but I don't believe anyone from our school would ever start any trouble. Our school is a big family of love and respect. May God bless you richly!

    Sincerely,
    Master Ray
    St. Louis Martial Arts Center



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    Which was in response to

    S.C. Ray ,

    A person (with the address of [email protected] ) who appears to be connected to your school has been causing problems and trolling on forums . While usually this is not a big deal . He chose Bullshido.net as method of trouble making , which as a general rule has a more "hands on" approach to Martial Arts and quality control with-in the Martial World .

    I invite you to join our discussion at http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=53896 .


    BackFistMonkey





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    I think it is pretty clear it hasn't followed the link or he would see that we know the same fellow has positive reviews of his schools on yahoo , so as far as I am concerned I doubt he checked his records either .

    I am going to send another e-mail this time strongly suggesting he actually follow the link and join us in friendly and lively discussion .

    .... unless some else ( more literate ) would like to do the honors .
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Paula-Satire
    Never believe that the GOP and fellow bigots are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The bigots and Republicans have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past and that besides, they have already won

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    There's an obnoxious Evangelical Christian stand-up comedian by the name of Brad Stine . . . . are we sure the guy who sent the email isn't just a fan?
    Stine the comedian actually founded his own alternative to the Promise Keepers called "The Godmen." No, seriously.
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