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    systema-spetznaz connection?

    Does anybody know if there is any evidence to corroborate the claim that Systema is taught to Spetznaz, special forces or any military outfit? Also if there is any proof of Ryabko's claim to be a russian military officer, Spetnaz colonel no less?
    If this has already been covered than please post link instead of bitching. Also I notice many of these threads devolve into critiques of Systema technically and effectively. Just interested in proof of the claimed history.....

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    this from a guy who sticks his head in toilets?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaroge
    this from a guy who sticks his head in toilets?!?
    Yes and keep in mind that , that one act was the most rational thing he has done in a very long time .
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    is no one contributing because this has been done already or because no one really knows? Any helpful contributions?

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    I will try to help by saying I can't find anything that is published by anyone except Systema people , specificly concerning the Russian Military connection .

    I am thinking the founders were into some in Special Forces Bad Ass **** that is to secret to actualy share with the public .

    Maybe you can have better luck looking for outside (of Systema) sources than I did .
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Paula-Satire
    Never believe that the GOP and fellow bigots are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The bigots and Republicans have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past and that besides, they have already won

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaroge
    is no one contributing because this has been done already or because no one really knows? Any helpful contributions?
    How about no one cares.

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    Thank you, That's all I was asking. I am no expert but have read extensively on Special forces. From what I gather they look for super fit extremely self motivated types. Ryabko's waist line doesn't exactly jive with that vibe. Also, Spec warriors tend to focus very little on h2h as they are armed all the time and what little they do is mainly for teaching aggressive behaviour as much as it is teaching technique. Just my opinion, but not an idle one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by M1K3
    How about no one cares.
    If you don't care than why are you here? this topic fits right in if the man is full of ****, just wanted to know. Someone in one of the posts on the subject stated that Ryabko's a respected combat instructor in Russia which I find hard to beleive, though I have zero systema experience so I can't really say either way.

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