Quote Originally Posted by ermghoti View Post
LOL, man...speaking by experience, to me an actual ***** often seems more like a triangle, but it's obvious that the ideas are a little bit confused at this point in time :D, so I'm ok to not go any further.

Back to topic I'm not willing to fight for last causes, and if I could go back in time surely I wouldn't respawn this old thread, I said what I had to and accept the memes of this forum and the hatred about these martial arts, I'm not here to change a thing ;).
Peace, wish you the best!