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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    You must consider demographics, not just population size.
    Which part of demographics? As it stands, this is a meaningless throw-in, not an argument. The countries in the graph have comparable GDP per capita, comparable age-structure, some of them comparable Gini-coefficients for income and wealth. So, what number is so different in the US it justifies this difference?

    "You must consider demographics" is a no-brainer. Pointing out a particular statistical difference that could explain this could be a valuable contribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falenay View Post
    Which part of demographics?
    Gingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Maybe if we stopped splashing this **** all over national TV n **** people would find it to be a less appealing concept.
    I 100% agree with this, we need to stop turning these fuckers into celebrities. They also need to start treating them like the pieces of **** they actually are instead of over analyzing the things that might have driven them to their madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawarma View Post
    You should perhaps look up the term "per capita" and then begin to consider why exactly your culture is diseased.
    You should look up the term "percentage chance" and realize that "per capita" doesn't account for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falenay View Post
    I suggest you read this article from the NY Times and pay special attention to the graph that shows the gun homicides per day if each country had the same population as the US for first-world countries. It is more than five times higher than for any other country with reliable numbers available.

    The only thing one could criticise is that this was "cherry-picking" as it uses numbers of first-world countries only. Hey, in Jamaica there are more gun-related deaths per capita in the end! But as you yourself mention western Europe, I think it is fair to say that one should compare countries with comparable socio-economical environments and homeland security standards.

    So yeah, the absolute numbers in the US are ridiculously high in part because of their sheer size and number of residents. But they are still more than five times higher if we do similar statistics per capita. And that's the real problem.
    Yeah, so their "chart" is made up bullshit, so nice try.

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    Some things I will be looking into on this: Many school districts in Florida have their own police force, and pretty good physical security, as well.

    At my kids' school, which is in the county to the immediate north, there is a full-time armed cop on site during operational hours.

    I don't know if that's the case for this high school in Broward county, which does have its own police force for schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falenay View Post
    Which part of demographics? As it stands, this is a meaningless throw-in, not an argument. The countries in the graph have comparable GDP per capita, comparable age-structure, some of them comparable Gini-coefficients for income and wealth. So, what number is so different in the US it justifies this difference?

    "You must consider demographics" is a no-brainer. Pointing out a particular statistical difference that could explain this could be a valuable contribution.
    Ummm...what?? Japan has what 0.0% diversity?? The same is true for most of the countries they usr to compare against the U.S.

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    I do think we need to look into what is causing privileged affluent white kids to perform mass casualty events. It does hint to something being broken, just not sure what it is.
    Don't rely on theory if your life is at stake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Tzadok View Post
    I do think we need to look into what is causing privileged affluent white kids to perform mass casualty events. It does hint to something being broken, just not sure what it is.
    The white school shooters (and the one yesterday wasn't white btw) make up only a small percentage of shootings.

    Heck, 17 people shot and killed is a slow weekend in Chicago. And those aren't "privileged affluent white kids" committing those murders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bneterasedmynam View Post
    Ummm...what?? Japan has what 0.0% diversity?? The same is true for most of the countries they usr to compare against the U.S.
    Ethnic fractualisation (the higher, the more diverse):

    US: 0.4966
    Canada: 0.7124
    Luxembourg: 0.5302
    Spain: 0.4165
    Lithuania: 0.3223
    ....
    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...#39;s_analysis

    Don't wanna look up more right now. So while most of the listed countries in the chart (hint: Japan isn't even included) are indeed less ethnically diverse, some of them are more diverse than the US. But 0.0 diversity is complete bullshit and you know that very well (well, I hope so).

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