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    Most effective martial art for self defense?

    I did karate when I was a kid stopped after a few months. In a real world scenario, like on the subway or the street, whats the best martial art for self defense?

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    Probably go with something that has realistic sparring not based on a point system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boldeagle67 View Post
    Probably go with something that has realistic sparring not based on a point system.
    I like the concept of points being used to train good habits, but yeah, I am with you when the whole and/or end goal is points. You are now "playing" instead of "fighting".

    Which is great! Judo is most players, TKD is mostly players, BJJ is mostly players. Boxing and kickboxing are often mostly players. You only get what I think of as experience of being a "truly skilled fighter" till you start crossing those lines... even if you just play at it all. If you are putting all the stuff you play at together under some pressure testing you are doing better than those who just spar hard in their comfort zones and mentally masturbate to Whatifical Theory else where.

    MMA just happens to be a handy set of generic rulesets to put it all together under.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey View Post
    I like the concept of points being used to train good habits, but yeah, I am with you when the whole and/or end goal is points. You are now "playing" instead of "fighting".

    Which is great! Judo is most players, TKD is mostly players, BJJ is mostly players. Boxing and kickboxing are often mostly players. You only get what I think of as experience of being a "truly skilled fighter" till you start crossing those lines... even if you just play at it all. If you are putting all the stuff you play at together under some pressure testing you are doing better than those who just spar hard in their comfort zones and mentally masturbate to Whatifical Theory else where.

    MMA just happens to be a handy set of generic rulesets to put it all together under.
    True. I didn't want to dismiss all other styles but MMA is the only true "safe bet" to cover all aspects in a single style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boldeagle67 View Post
    True. I didn't want to dismiss all other styles but MMA is the only true "safe bet" to cover all aspects in a single style.
    When people talk about "self defense" they usually actually mean: MMA with short blades and small arms or they want TKD+Karate+NimpoTaiJitsuRyuDildo4thMoonKiWaxOffMed itation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey View Post
    When people talk about "self defense" they usually actually mean: MMA with short blades and small arms or they want TKD+Karate+NimpoTaiJitsuRyuDildo4thMoonKiWaxOffMed itation.
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    Although of the two above options, I would definitely go with the MMA w/ small blades and little arms. Less Bullshido of the two options.

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