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    Give them steroids.
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    A kid with 2 years of JJJ and TKD is nothing to be afraid of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLansing View Post
    . They are starting to get scary. I can't grab them anymore unless I'm very careful. The little short suckers can kick me in the head if they want
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    That's cause you're a *****.
    They always look forward to their training. They get straight A's in school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeLansing View Post
    I have 2 kids. A 10yo girl and an 11 year old boy. I started them out at like ages 7-8 in karate, but it is some wacko local recent brand of karate with no contact. It was like "make little circles in the air with your foot". Kids don't do that well.
    Dropped that crap when they got their Orange belt, and they didn't know anything.
    What exactly were you expecting a 7 and 8 year old to "know" after taking karate?

    Next I put them into Japanese Ju Jitsu. This was way better. Mount, guard, arm bar, blocks, chokes. It is decent. Some striking, but no kicking for the most part. If they get you by the wrist or finger you will pay. They are still doing this. The instruction is real. Took a year to advance a belt.
    Yes, it seems that this is the real deal.
    Evil dad mode turned on. "If you are going to play minecraft all day, you need to work more". Lets learn to kick. Tossed them into twice a week Taekwondo.
    Nothing wrong with making children be physically active.
    It is good. They break boards, jump rope like a boxing pro, it's great for kids. And they kick!
    What specifically is good about breaking boards? Jumping rope is good for general physical fitness but is hardly a skill that needs to be obtained from a tkd instructor, and my daughter, who has played soccer since she was a small child, can kick too (probably better than the majority of tae Kwon do practicioners)!!
    now they are doing TKD on Mondays and Wednesdays, JJJ on Thursdays, and swim on Saturdays.
    Seems a little busy to me, but if the schedule doesn't introduce more stress than benefit to your family's life, then it's working for you and that's good.
    They've been into decent stuff (not the lame karate) almost 2 years now.
    By what exact criteria are you judging JJJ and TKD to be "decent stuff".
    They are starting to get scary. I can't grab them anymore unless I'm very careful. The little short suckers can kick me in the head if they want.
    Bullshit. And if it's not bullshit, I struggle to find the context in which children this age being "scary", and causing the adults who are responsible for these children's care to be concerned for their own personal safety, could be regarded as positive in any way.
    They always look forward to their training.
    This means they are enjoying it, and that is what really matters.
    They get straight A's in school.
    This is far more impressive than being accomplished athletes or fighters, and hopefully you can continue to provide them the environment they need, to continue to succeed.
    They are half Asian Filipino if that counts for anything.
    Of course it does. Everyone knows Asians are good at academic endeavors.
    So. Am I making them do too much?
    Too much martial arts? Too much homework? Too much time spent on extracurricular activities in general? I'm not 100% certain what the actual question is here, and how I would answer this depends on exactly what the question is speaking to.
    I've read stuff about youngsters and joint damage.
    Yeah... not good. I have never been impressed, in general, with expecting child bodies and child intellect and emotional maturity levels to acquire adult skills.
    I'm super proud of them,
    And you should be. Would you be just as proud if they hated martial arts and loved soccer and playing the violin?
    and I think they are proud of themselves,
    If they are enjoying what they do, and feel a sense of accomplishment, they probably are, and they should be. Or they could just be proud of the fact that you are proud of them. Children that age simply want their parents approval, and if they can see the best way to get that approval is to put on a pair of Asian pajamas and slam another kid on their back, or KICK!©, then there are very few children who wouldn't give it their best effort.
    but I worry a lot about having my kids being so abnormal.
    Abnormal by who's standard? Being comfortable with yourself, and we'll adjusted enough to be a functional member of human society without having a peer committee dictate your interests is of much more value as a life skill than knowing how to efficiently choke someone unconscious.
    The JJJ teacher is weirded out about them also being in Taekwondo, the Taekwondo teacher is weirded out about them being in JJJ.
    Please define "weirded out", because unless either of them are paying for it or taking time from their day to transport them, I fail to see why their feelings are relevant.
    They have gloves and a full size Wavemaster for punching practice which isn't in TKD or JJJ.
    Why? And when did the Kukkiwon take punching out of the take Kwon do syllabus?
    So should I do anything different? What's your opinions?
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    My opinion is that this is a trolling attempt.

    Assuming it isn't, for the sake of my own entertainment, one thing that is almost always notably absent whenever someone seems fixated on having their child excel at an endeavor, is that person's own training and accomplishments.

    A parent's job is to develop children into happy, healthy and well adjusted adults who are willing and capable of making a positive contribution to society.

    Martial arts can absolutely help achieve that ultimate end goal, but so can a lot of other things. Whether or not a singular focus on training your children to be beasts is the best way to accomplish that goal with your family is not something I, nor anyone else on the internet, can really speak to intelligently.

    My opinion is worthless, just like everyone else's opinion on this forum.

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    I wasn't trolling, just slow. at hXXp://taeparktaekwondo.org/tournament/ my 10 year old got 2 golds for stupid forms and "one step sparing". My 11 year old got 2 silvers in the same. It's pretty lame, but they are learning to kick.

    They are learning so called "traditional Chung Do Kwon" Taekwondo. But it's WTF/Kikkoman so it's pretty much crap, and not traditional at all. Head strikes are worth no points. The only hand strikes that are worth points are a back fist, which is too easy to grab.

    My goal was to get them to learn to kick. The Danzan-ryū Jiu Jitsu they have been doing for 2 years is great, but it lacks decent kicking. The stupid common core TKD kicking they are learning now, may end up being very useful for them. I just tell them keep the kicks low, at least until I can't grab their foot anymore. :)

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    My 11 year old is getting fun to poke/tickle. He'll start tossing kicks and nice elbows at me. He can kick hard. I think my daughter would suck at sparing, but she's perfect at forms. She does the form strikes hard, and it just looks sweet. Why she got 2 golds. But like sparring, she can't block anything, and hits weak. Oh, well. My kids are fun, my favorite toys..:P

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    Dude, you’re exaggerating about your kids being dangerous. Either that, or you just don’t know. You should be able to beat up at least 15 or 20 kids at a time. 30 if you took your Adderall that morning.

    Put them against older kids that aren’t just there to stroke their egos and see what happens.

    My son is 14 and has been training BJJ for five years. He also is in his fourth season of wrestling. He trained Judo for a while. Muay Thai when his schedule allows. A couple summers of boxing. He trains about six days a week and loves it and has been doing that for quite a while.

    He weighs about 130 pounds and he was kind of slow to start developing physically, although he’s growing a lot now. He has enough skill that, if he were grown, he could beat the snot out of the vast majority of people on the planet whenever he felt like it.

    But he’s not grown. He’s a kid. He has yet to submit a grown man who wasn’t just half-ass toying with him. He is at the point in his development where he has great rolls against grown women. That’s a fair fight for him at this point.

    Anyway, let’s not kid ourselves about what kids are capable of. Kids are weak. You’ll see some kids who start puberty early as hell and they can take out some men when they’re 13 or 14 but they’re few and far between.

    But for the record, I don’t think you’re overdoing it with your kids. I just think they’re doing the wrong ****. I’m in favor of teaching kids proven, usable technique. I’m in favor of training them with aliveness. JJJ certainly doesn’t fit the bill.

    Train them the right way and then the last piece of the puzzle is simple. From there, they just have to grow. Once they have the right skills, all they have to do is keep eating cheeseburgers until they can **** people up.

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    Wrestling, footwork and public schools is what I train my kids in. But more than that, I have them on a pretty good callisthenic workout routine. I'm pretty proud of them for that. My son's boy is pretty hefty and can't do any pushups or pullups. That just sucks, in my opinion.

    I told my sons that my job right now is to prepare them for high school, which is next year for the oldest. When he gets there, I want him to be physically able to participate in any sport he wants. I want him to be able to defend himself. And I want him to get good enough grades to be able to get into what ever program interests him. Once he is in high school, that will shift to the same thing but towards college or a tech school. If he choses not to do any sports, that's fine, but he will have the choice. And won't have to say, I wish I could but I'm too fat or too out of shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_tke View Post
    Wrestling, footwork and public schools is what I train my kids in. But more than that, I have them on a pretty good callisthenic workout routine. I'm pretty proud of them for that. My son's boy is pretty hefty and can't do any pushups or pullups. That just sucks, in my opinion.

    I told my sons that my job right now is to prepare them for high school, which is next year for the oldest. When he gets there, I want him to be physically able to participate in any sport he wants. I want him to be able to defend himself. And I want him to get good enough grades to be able to get into what ever program interests him. Once he is in high school, that will shift to the same thing but towards college or a tech school. If he choses not to do any sports, that's fine, but he will have the choice. And won't have to say, I wish I could but I'm too fat or too out of shape.
    I also have healthy and well thought out goals for my son. I’m trying to turn him into John Wick. I have found that when people get the most out of life, it’s almost always because they molded themselves after a character in an action movie. I personally chose both John Rambo and MacGyver, because I’m extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil View Post
    I also have healthy and well thought out goals for my son. I’m trying to turn him into John Wick.
    A russian mafia hitman?

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