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    Quote Originally Posted by Tramirezmma View Post
    That's the free market at work sir.
    Yes it is. It has also contributed heavily to job market situation as we see it today.

    Back to illegal immigration.

    Any number of construction trades have been swamped with cheap illegal labor. This to the detriment of those here legally.

    They're not better. Cheaper because they'll work for less than industry rates. They'll work for less because they're here illegally.

    Does this, in your mind, qualify as the free market at work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    Why can't they mostly do it themselves?
    Usually things like disability, age and extreme and/or generational poverties are to blame on some of the topics, as is bad luck. Other topics are purely political like the failure of our public education system, colleges and health care.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Paula-Satire
    Never believe that the GOP and fellow bigots are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The bigots and Republicans have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past and that besides, they have already won

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tramirezmma View Post
    I agree that's worse for the economy, but that's not really something we can stop in a capitalist society.
    I try not to do biz with companies that do that ****. I vote with my cash.

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