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    Edge Martial Arts (Mt Evelyn, Victoria) & The Late Andrew Roberts

    Anyone know anything about this school? I contacted them and got a spiel about how Andrew (R.I.P) was graded in some form of Karate, and his "30 years experience" essentially qualifies him to create his own style and teach/grade people in it (incorporating Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Taekwondo, American Kick Boxing etc). I then got a spiel about how the "good vibes" of the school qualify what they teach, how most MMA schools do the same thing and I had to make a judgement on the culture.

    Laughable really, as I had already smelled BS.

    I was pretty firm with whoever I was talking to (I'm terrible with names) and asked if this guy was ever graded in anything other than Karate... the answer was "his 30 years experience in martial arts)" blah blah blah. Sounds like another McDojo to me. Now I'm sure Andrew and all his students etc are nice people, so this is not intended to rip into their good intentions and admirable community spirit and whatnot.

    If anyone has any different thoughts I'd be glad to hear it. Sounds like people are all caught up in the "good vibes" they forget to ask the credential questions to ensure they aren't teaching or learning stuff translated from youtube.

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    Wrong forum. MABS is for conducting investigations. "Anybody know 'bout dis guy?" threads belong in YMAS.

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    Ah ok fair enough... I suppose I was attempting to have a "serious" look into who this guy was and what his students now teach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japalish View Post
    Ah ok fair enough... I suppose I was attempting to have a "serious" look into who this guy was and what his students now teach.
    In MABS you have to start off with something. You say here are the false claims or questionable techniques or criminal charges etc and then provide links, videos, marketing materials, screen shots, articles and certificates documenting the claims.

    Asking "what do you think about X art or X school or X teacher" is YMAS.
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