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    Streetfighting is not worth of it - if you go to the Street you die

    If you start fighting thgere...well I dont even want to know what happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by DdlR View Post
    Most of the first generation of modern Bartitsu (and other HEMA) revivalists had serious backgrounds in a wide range of MAs and combat sports.
    Which is why I <3 WMA ... including Bartitsu. Some of the guys involved are taking it seriously and have good experiences to draw from when taking the hypotheticals and illustrations and descriptions to actually "smashing an ankle with a walking cane". They know or will try to find out (in a somewhat safe way) if it is the fight ender, as some silly ass people claim.
    ... and there are plenty of silly ass people involved with WMA and all it's ilk. So if you (OP) stumble upon some bullshit know in your heart it isn't all terrible. I have also been seeing Aikido guys muscling in on the Bartitsu scene ... so heads up on that.
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    Never believe that the GOP and fellow bigots are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The bigots and Republicans have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past and that besides, they have already won

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey View Post
    Which is why I <3 WMA ... including Bartitsu. Some of the guys involved are taking it seriously and have good experiences to draw from when taking the hypotheticals and illustrations and descriptions to actually "smashing an ankle with a walking cane". They know or will try to find out (in a somewhat safe way) if it is the fight ender, as some silly ass people claim.
    ... and there are plenty of silly ass people involved with WMA and all it's ilk. So if you (OP) stumble upon some bullshit know in your heart it isn't all terrible. I have also been seeing Aikido guys muscling in on the Bartitsu scene ... so heads up on that.
    Really? I keep my ear to the ground and I haven't noticed any Aiki-folk.

    But yeah, the current proportions are about 1/3 ironic hipster silliness at steampunk conventions, 1/3 McDojo-style mediocrity and 1/3 serious practitioners. The Sherlock Holmes movies created a geek-shiny pop culture bandwagon out of what had previously been a fringe-of-the-fringe MA revivalist activity and that noise is only recently beginning to abate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DdlR View Post
    Really? I keep my ear to the ground and I haven't noticed any Aiki-folk.

    But yeah, the current proportions are about 1/3 ironic hipster silliness at steampunk conventions, 1/3 McDojo-style mediocrity and 1/3 serious practitioners. The Sherlock Holmes movies created a geek-shiny pop culture bandwagon out of what had previously been a fringe-of-the-fringe MA revivalist activity and that noise is only recently beginning to abate.
    I thought that would perk your interest, I will try and dig up the link to the dudes page. He was definitely part of where those first two thirds overlap in a Venn Diagram.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jean Paula-Satire
    Never believe that the GOP and fellow bigots are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The bigots and Republicans have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past and that besides, they have already won

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    Wow, all great info. Thanks!

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    If you're interested, I recommend the Bartutsu Wikipedia page for a good, accurate overview and the Bartitsu Society website for all the nitty-gritty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DdlR View Post
    Really? I keep my ear to the ground and I haven't noticed any Aiki-folk.

    But yeah, the current proportions are about 1/3 ironic hipster silliness at steampunk conventions, 1/3 McDojo-style mediocrity and 1/3 serious practitioners. The Sherlock Holmes movies created a geek-shiny pop culture bandwagon out of what had previously been a fringe-of-the-fringe MA revivalist activity and that noise is only recently beginning to abate.
    Quote Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey View Post
    I thought that would perk your interest, I will try and dig up the link to the dudes page. He was definitely part of where those first two thirds overlap in a Venn Diagram.
    Do you mean this guy?



    Who also hangs out with this guy:



    These are a bit old so perhaps he's moved on.

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    Bartitsu seems likely to encourage you to walk with a cane that you twirl and air-sword, wear silly hats and cloaks, and speak in antiquated words. All of those things seem to make you more likely to be a target of street violence than if you did nothing. Not that I'm not guilty of some of the above.

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