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    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post

    manny pacqiao
    Too bad he lost a clear decision in a crap fight. Wish it had happened 5 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tramirezmma View Post
    Matt Hume

    Erik Paulson

    Jean Jacque Machado

    Bernard Hopkins

    I second Inosanto for sure
    Besides Hopkins, what have the others done to be legendary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raycetpfl View Post
    Besides Hopkins, what have the others done to be legendary?
    Machado won ADCC, submitted all of his opponents and has been the primary teacher of future legends as well.

    Hume and Paulson are pioneers, and their fights in Shooto were way ahead of their time. Also both trainers of champions after retiring from competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raycetpfl View Post
    Besides Hopkins, what have the others done to be legendary?
    And Inosanto is basically the godfather of FMA in the US, at least in the west.

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    We talking martial arts or combat sports.

    Combat sports, apparently, and living, that narrows it down, LOL!


    In that case:
    Teddy Riner
    Yasuhiro Yamashita
    Isao Okano
    Katsuhiko Kashiwazaki
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    why jackie chan?
    He's the biggest martial movie icon alive today, an inspiration to millions.

    Hume and Paulson are pioneers, and their fights in Shooto were way ahead of their time. Also both trainers of champions after retiring from competition.
    Hume wasn't a Shooto guy. He cut his teeth in Pancrase before coming to the US to beat Paulson and Miletich in Extreme Fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tramirezmma View Post
    Machado won ADCC, submitted all of his opponents and has been the primary teacher of future legends as well.

    Hume and Paulson are pioneers, and their fights in Shooto were way ahead of their time. Also both trainers of champions after retiring from competition.

    That's really throwing the term legend around pretty loosely imho. They are all very good professionals. I don't have any intention of saying disparaging things about anybody on the list.

    Hume is 5-5 in mma,didn't do a whole lot in submission grappling- won 2 matches in the first adcc and seems to be a very good coach.

    Paulson-mma 11-4 - Losses to Carlos Newton,Paul Jones, Matt Hume and James Warring. He has no notable wins against legendary/P4P type fighters.
    Sub Grappling - Loss to Xande Ribeiro at the adcc
    Seems to be a very good coach and I enjoy his videos.

    JJ Machado- 0-1 in mma (loss to Frank Trigg), Fantastic Grappler!, 3 time adcc medalist 1 gold 1 silver in weight and a silver absolute. , Sambo Pan Am Champ, Great Instructor.He's truly an elite grappler And he he's done all this with a handicap of sorts because of his hand.


    Machado is the only one of the three that I would say is Legendary as a fighter. The other two are clearly great coaches but I don't think I would use the term legend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Moment View Post
    He's the biggest martial movie icon alive today, an inspiration to millions.
    fair enough. i was just thrown off given the environment here. he doesn't practice anything advocated here does he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by itwasntme View Post
    . he doesn't practice anything advocated here does he?
    He doesn't claim to either.

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