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    What's your favorite judo throw combination?

    My dudes,

    What's your favorite throw progression in judo?

    I'm pretty bad at stringing techniques together, so I'm looking for ideas?

    I'm a green belt, and I've had some success with o soto -> sasae tsurikomi ashi (-> o soto again) and a cross grip o soto, but I need to broaden my horizons!





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    not going to win any originality awards with these, but this is what i usually try:

    sasae tsurikomi ashi -> harai goshi
    kouchi gari -> tai otoshi
    ippon seoi nage -> kouchi gari
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    +1 for kouchi gari, ko soto gari/gake and other reaps/hooks combined with almost anything, always seem really effective especially if you have long legs and a strong, fast drive.

    Imho, they don't seem to require much energy or leverage to pull off to great effect, and they work with different grips. Just add decent timing and footwork. When the opponents expecting you to attempt a back throw and suddenly they're flying because you got that little reap, it's a beautiful thing.

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    Seoinage <--> kouchi
    Any other ashiwaza --> osotogari

    In my own judo development, I found that looking for combinations to make work was a fool's errand. I had much more success looking for entrances to my favorite/most effective techniques, and using other throws to create those entrances/situations. For instance my osoto is my best weapon, but I find it hard to get chest contact. I have chest contact after a failed koshiwaza or kouchigari, so to osotogari it is. This may not be the best judo, but it was what I made do with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    My dudes,

    What's your favorite throw progression in judo?

    I'm pretty bad at stringing techniques together, so I'm looking for ideas?

    I'm a green belt, and I've had some success with o soto -> sasae tsurikomi ashi (-> o soto again) and a cross grip o soto, but I need to broaden my horizons!





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    If you look at what 1Point2 wrote, I think that is good advice. Over the years, I preached and (tried) to teach a lot of combinations. The judo "literature" is full of them, how important they are, like some sort of secret weapon for success in Judo.

    I finally think I figured out that the most important weapon is the concept/principle of action/reaction, however you can apply it. But to apply it you need to have solid balance, posture, gripping, and movement. So without those, and even with them, action reaction doesn't get you very far because you (and I mean in general) cannot take advantage of your opponents reaction to your initial attack/movement/grip/posture.

    My advice is to take a hard look at the throws you think you do well already, and see how you can put them together depending on how an opponent commonly reacts to your attempt. Ask yourself if, as 1point2 pointed out, you end up in a position to try effectively try something else.

    Now, for grading purposes, you can just practice the typical canned combinations, although those do have application in randori/shiai. Ouchi Gari-Tai Otoshi, Kouchi Gari-Ouchi Gari, Hiza Guruma-De Ashi Barai (I can actually sometimes make that one work in randori).

    If you like Osoto Gari, then Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi and Ouchi Gari work well together as a triple threat.

    Post some video of you practicing Judo, that would help.
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    Not sure mine is a combo so much as just a change in direction - soto makikomi,and then if there is resistance change direction into osoto makikomi.

    If I'm asked to demo I like sasae-tsurikomi-ashi into tai otoshi. Attack the sasae, and when the resistance comes pull back the propping foot. But instead of pulling back to kamae, pull back further so that when he stops the resistance in anticipation of a backwards follow up, you are already turning into the tai otoshi. It's a bit complicated for reality - better to attack the sasae and see what happens next. But it looks pretty when you do it right.
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    I think that's my issue. I'm relatively new to judo, and I'm not committing like I should be. I'll definitely be working on my entries, and trying to see trends in people's reactions.




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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    I'm relatively new to judo, and I'm not committing like I should be.
    When I came to my coach with this same question, I had this same commitment issue. He said, stop thinking about combinations entirely. Just do the throw you're doing, a million percent hard, and drive through to the mat. His point was that combinations are a copout for students, often with previous experience, who have trouble committing to a throw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilG View Post
    Not sure mine is a combo so much as just a change in direction - soto makikomi,and then if there is resistance change direction into osoto makikomi.

    If I'm asked to demo I like sasae-tsurikomi-ashi into tai otoshi. Attack the sasae, and when the resistance comes pull back the propping foot. But instead of pulling back to kamae, pull back further so that when he stops the resistance in anticipation of a backwards follow up, you are already turning into the tai otoshi. It's a bit complicated for reality - better to attack the sasae and see what happens next. But it looks pretty when you do it right.
    Yeah, that's a combination.

    And the last thing you describe is how it works at a higher level of judo ability. Make a move, then another, then another, depending on the totality of circumstances. If you have developed a system of movement/attack as to where that happens a "natural flow", so much the better.
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