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    Campaign to promote Wrestling as a Martial Art

    I was just mulling over how people can do their part to promote wrestling in the wake of its exclusion from 2020 games. It dawned on me that most people probably consider wrestling just another arbitrary sport rather than a bona-fide fighting style. MMA has greatly increased the awareness of the combat applicability of wrestling (And is almost certainly responsible to some degree for the recent increase in scholastic wrestling participation) but I still don't believe most people realize wrestling is a fighting style in and of itself. Tank Abbott said it himself: "Wrestling is a prerequisite to fighting."

    Perhaps we can do our part in the fight against Wushu by starting up a Facebook campaign to promote wrestling as a martial art. We have some strong arguments on our side:









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    I think we what you really need is to cough up 5 billion $$ to the IOC. Someone will do it, probably the Russians.


    Also this: https://www.change.org/petitions/the...ympicwrestling


    Awesome thread, as always.
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    Related article. If wrestling gets cut from the olympics it will be a travesty and a disgrace.
    http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/repo...7156--oly.html
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    I say we go further and try to convince people to boycott the Olympics. If they are claiming it is ticket sales and tv ratings, we work now to convince as many people as we can to boycott watching or going to all but the combat sports in the games.

    I still do not underhand their decision, while they were struggling to get people to watch swimming, every time I watched wrestling, judo or fencing the arena was packed even during the qualifiers.

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    If all its going to take is a 'donation' to the IOC to make this go away, then one of the nations that routinely takes home medals in wrestling would do well to step up.
    Tranquil Suit mentioned Russia, and I'm sure the USA has a vested interest in keeping wrestling included in the games. Collegiate wrestling is huge in the USA ( not like I need to to tell you guys that..)
    People who are petitioning for the inclusion of MMA in the Olympics might want to ask themselves which they would rather see - wrestling or MMA. Because chances are the IOC will not want to have both.
    I would rather see wrestling.
    This is a sport that has been included in the Olympics since ancient times and to pull it now would be tantamount to nothing less than stomping on its history.
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    I know this thread is old, but I will go one step further: Wrestling is the KING of martial arts. Please allow me to explain. Chad Kite a Royce Gracie BB I trained with for a bit Claimed that BJJ is the King of all martial arts.

    This guy also has a good striking and weapons background. Guns and kali. He also teaches more old School BJJ that focuses on self defense. He teaches Gracie Combatives

    However, neither he, nor any of his students would have the slightest chance of taking a wrestler down. Wrestlers dictate where the fights take place, a huge advantage in a street fight or MMA. Wrestlers dominate MMA for a reason.

    I trained with a local BJJ Black Belt. I wont name him, but I trained with him because he has an excellent system (FMA based) for knife training.

    He does not consider wrestling to be a martial art. The same is true of his son. His son is one of the most talented people I have trained with. For 20 plus years this kid has been training, he lives with his parents which enables him to have a professional athletes life style. He is a legit BB and also an excellent boxer.

    He had his first professional fight a couple weeks ago against another solid prospect with a winning record.

    On the feet the fight was even. Both are excellent strikers. However, if the fight hit the ground, it would be no contest. But something very bazaar happened. The something is common in sport BJJ. He pulled guard.

    Whenever he got tagged he would either recuperate with the jab (what high level boxers do) or he would go for a takedown. Each time he would shoot, get good penetration....but then attempt to pull guard. If he had wrestling experience, he would have easily finished those takedowns.He lost the fight.

    He lost the fight because he refuses to view wrestling as a martial art.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preschol View Post
    I know this thread is old, but I will go one step further: Wrestling is the KING of martial arts. Please allow me to explain. Chad Kite a Royce Gracie BB I trained with for a bit Claimed that BJJ is the King of all martial arts.

    This guy also has a good striking and weapons background. Guns and kali. He also teaches more old School BJJ that focuses on self defense. He teaches Gracie Combatives

    However, neither he, nor any of his students would have the slightest chance of taking a wrestler down. Wrestlers dictate where the fights take place, a huge advantage in a street fight or MMA. Wrestlers dominate MMA for a reason.

    I trained with a local BJJ Black Belt. I wont name him, but I trained with him because he has an excellent system (FMA based) for knife training.

    He does not consider wrestling to be a martial art. The same is true of his son. His son is one of the most talented people I have trained with. For 20 plus years this kid has been training, he lives with his parents which enables him to have a professional athletes life style. He is a legit BB and also an excellent boxer.

    He had his first professional fight a couple weeks ago against another solid prospect with a winning record.

    On the feet the fight was even. Both are excellent strikers. However, if the fight hit the ground, it would be no contest. But something very bazaar happened. The something is common in sport BJJ. He pulled guard.

    Whenever he got tagged he would either recuperate with the jab (what high level boxers do) or he would go for a takedown. Each time he would shoot, get good penetration....but then attempt to pull guard. If he had wrestling experience, he would have easily finished those takedowns.He lost the fight.

    He lost the fight because he refuses to view wrestling as a martial art.
    Wrestling is a martial art.
    Wrestling is certainly a contender for the oldest martial art.
    And, every culture in the world seems to have its own wrestling tradition.
    Wrestling is brutal, effective, and freestyle/collegiate/scholastic wrestling is both high percentage in BJJ environments and easily cross adapted to deal with submission defense and submission opportunity.
    Wrestling may or may not be the "KING" of martial arts, but it was the "Sport of Kings".

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    Anyone who doesn't think wrestling is a martial art didn't go to high school.... where you simply did not **** with the wrestlers.
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    Bah BJJ is just a type of Folk Wrestling
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