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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_tke View Post
    I always thought of those old testament rules as if a scientist from the future went back in time and had to instruct the ignorant man on how to survive. And instead of trying to explain germs and bacteria to man who didn't even have basic understanding of these invisible things, he just said "Alright, look, if you don't wash your hands when you go into your house, you will go to hell. If you eat these things that will kill you, you will go to hell." --ignorant man, "but how do we tell the difference between an oyster with vibrio and a vulture?" --God scientist, "Just only eat things in the water with fins and scales, and you have to cook pork to a certain temp" --man, "what's a temp?" God scientist, "BAH! Don't eat pork." ***walks off grumbling,"....stupid man, why do I bother...."
    An interesting linguistic note, in the original Hebrew the word ascribed to the "non-edibles" is more like "detestable" or "unclean".

    But in later Christian texts like the KJB, it becomes more like "abomination", "wicked", "cursed".

    You can practically see the guilt trip changing over centuries from "don't eat that" to "if you eat that God will smite thee!"
    '“I am no advocate of passivity,” Coffin Mott said in an 1860 speech. “Quakerism, as I understand it, does not mean quietism. The early Friends were agitators; disturbers of the peace; and were more obnoxious in their day to charges, which are now so freely made, than we are.”'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_tke View Post
    I always thought of those old testament rules as if a scientist from the future went back in time and had to instruct the ignorant man on how to survive. And instead of trying to explain germs and bacteria to man who didn't even have basic understanding of these invisible things, he just said "Alright, look, if you don't wash your hands when you go into your house, you will go to hell. If you eat these things that will kill you, you will go to hell." --ignorant man, "but how do we tell the difference between an oyster with vibrio and a vulture?" --God scientist, "Just only eat things in the water with fins and scales, and you have to cook pork to a certain temp" --man, "what's a temp?" God scientist, "BAH! Don't eat pork." ***walks off grumbling,"....stupid man, why do I bother...."
    Yep, that's the way I've always interpreted. Religious leaders were leaders because they had enough smarts to look at "known," hazards and, quite literally, put the fear of God into their followers. Continuation of the species was their goal, which then turned into preservation of power. This also goes a little ways to explain restrictions on sodomy and homosexuality, which were widely practiced and accepted in other contemporary societies.
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    I could never go vegan. I love bacon, and always will.

    Speaking of which, now is the time to discuss the new red meat research controversy..

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...th-ncna1063491

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...rocessed-meat/

    New “guidelines” say continue red meat consumption habits, but recommendations contradict evidence
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    '“I am no advocate of passivity,” Coffin Mott said in an 1860 speech. “Quakerism, as I understand it, does not mean quietism. The early Friends were agitators; disturbers of the peace; and were more obnoxious in their day to charges, which are now so freely made, than we are.”'

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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    I could never go vegan. I love bacon, and always will.

    Speaking of which, now is the time to discuss the new red meat research controversy..

    https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...th-ncna1063491

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutriti...rocessed-meat/
    That top article is right where I'm at. Every time they tell us something is bad, we just have to wait a little while till they change their minds. So why bother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Diesel_tke View Post
    That top article is right where I'm at. Every time they tell us something is bad, we just have to wait a little while till they change their minds. So why bother.
    Bacon has such a high protein to fat ratio for meat, for all the demonization.

    Since any risks associated with saturated fat tend to be due to cardiovascular health, it stands to reason bacon, sausage, steak, eggs are all OK as long as you put the work in the reduce cholesterol and other heart/artery choking stuff.

    I wonder if the conflicting studies are a representation of the average person who doesn't get enough exercise and the smaller fraction that do: lots of processed meat and little exercise = bad health. Lots of red meat and pork and decent exercise, what's that going to lead to either than muscle mass and good CV health?

    The only thing I can think of is sodium intake etc. But even that is ok as long as you're sweating it out. In fact extra sodium or potassium is important for heavy duty workouts.
    '“I am no advocate of passivity,” Coffin Mott said in an 1860 speech. “Quakerism, as I understand it, does not mean quietism. The early Friends were agitators; disturbers of the peace; and were more obnoxious in their day to charges, which are now so freely made, than we are.”'

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    Quote Originally Posted by W. Rabbit View Post
    You're leaving out the other parts of Leviticus: vultures, osprey, falcon, raven, ostrich, hawk, owl, pelican, stork, heron, bats...

    There are more. But you can eat locusts, according to the Old Testament.

    Remember, these were desert people with no access to decent shellfish anyway.

    Where were they gonna find dolphins or crabs, the Red Sea?

    There were plenty of prostitutes around to provide the crabs, jussayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChenPengFi View Post
    Depends.
    I can go for lunch and gas money with one friend but he works all the time.
    That guy makes great goat in fact.
    He brines it in Sprite overnight and feeds it to unsuspecting guests.
    They have no idea that it's goat, hahaha...

    Those things are a real pest, as are the pigs.

    Our land/resource management is a mess here but resident permits are very cheap.
    $30 covers birds too.

    As you know one can spend a great deal more.
    There are guided hunts and such on the outer islands.
    You could stay at the Four Seasons on Lanai while hunting axis and mufflon all week.
    That would run you some coin!

    Deep sea fishing was out of hand when the gas prices were pushing $5/gal here.
    My uncles boat has a 1000 gal capacity, lol...

    "Buy fuel and you can have all the fish you want!"


    I like spear fishing a lot.
    Lots of variety with that method and it's the most like dry land hunting.
    (Terry Mass' book is a great read btw. That guy is nuts. https://www.amazon.com/BlueWater-Hun.../dp/B000GXGGBS )

    Second would be light tackle spinning gear.

    Hunting mammals is really enjoyable but it's a lot more work than fishing which I can do in my backyard.
    Your posts have been making me itch though.
    We used to shoot feral goats on Jura, you weren't allowed to shoot the red deer though. That and fishing and mussel ropes fairly supplemented the veg garden and shopping.

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