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    The UnOfficial Guide for Discerning BS from Effective Technique

    I am writing a book on mixed martial arts technique, and I'm writing a chapter on how to tell if a striking technique and/or discipline is effective or bullshit. I'm coming up with guidelines for sniffing out the BS, and was wondering if there was a clear and concise list of requirements or essential elements to effective striking techniques and disciplines for MMA.

    So far, I have this...

    Disciplines

    1. Disciplines should include techniques that are capable of being tested in a competitive setting. If no one has ever pulled off the move in a boxing or muay thai competition, it probably won't work in MMA.

    2. Disciplines should utilize techniques that are intended to damage or knock out the opponent. If the sport or discipline is based on contact or touch sparring, instead of power and impairment of the opponent, it probably won't work in MMA.

    Techniques

    1. Dynamic, powerful movement: The core and body weight must move dynamically. If a technique displays a lack of movement and overall body weight displacement, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    2. Efficient, fluid movement: The movement must be produced with minimal muscular activation, remaining in a position of leverage, alignment, and mechanical efficiency throughout the technique. If the technique requires too much energy to produce a movement, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    3. Control, balance, and stability: The body must remain in a position of balance and stability. If the technique makes you lose control of your body, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    4. Protective positioning: The technique must minimize exposure to the opponent. If a technique brings you out of position excessively and it leaves you vulnerable to counterstrikes, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    5. Follow-up positioning: The technique must leave you in a position to immediately follow up with another striking or control (takedowns or submissions) technique. If you're unable to move and attack the opponent at the end of the technique, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    *Technique guidelines are relative. Obviously, some techniques will be less efficient or more dangerous than others. If a technique is too dynamic, it becomes less efficient and could inhibit your efficiency or stability. If a technique is too stablizing, dynamic movement is more difficult. Balance between all five elements is best.

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    Please let me know what you think. Am I missing anything? Are there exceptions to my rules? Help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by resonatemoore View Post
    I am writing a book on mixed martial arts technique, and I'm writing a chapter on how to tell if a striking technique and/or discipline is effective or bullshit. I'm coming up with guidelines for sniffing out the BS, and was wondering if there was a clear and concise list of requirements or essential elements to effective striking techniques and disciplines for MMA.

    So far, I have this...

    Disciplines

    1. Disciplines should include techniques that are capable of being tested in a competitive setting. If no one has ever pulled off the move in a boxing or muay thai competition, it probably won't work in MMA.

    2. Disciplines should utilize techniques that are intended to damage or knock out the opponent. If the sport or discipline is based on contact or touch sparring, instead of power and impairment of the opponent, it probably won't work in MMA.

    Techniques

    1. Dynamic, powerful movement: The core and body weight must move dynamically. If a technique displays a lack of movement and overall body weight displacement, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    2. Efficient, fluid movement: The movement must be produced with minimal muscular activation, remaining in a position of leverage, alignment, and mechanical efficiency throughout the technique. If the technique requires too much energy to produce a movement, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    3. Control, balance, and stability: The body must remain in a position of balance and stability. If the technique makes you lose control of your body, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    4. Protective positioning: The technique must minimize exposure to the opponent. If a technique brings you out of position excessively and it leaves you vulnerable to counterstrikes, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    5. Follow-up positioning: The technique must leave you in a position to immediately follow up with another striking or control (takedowns or submissions) technique. If you're unable to move and attack the opponent at the end of the technique, it's probably ineffective in MMA.

    *Technique guidelines are relative. Obviously, some techniques will be less efficient or more dangerous than others. If a technique is too dynamic, it becomes less efficient and could inhibit your efficiency or stability. If a technique is too stablizing, dynamic movement is more difficult. Balance between all five elements is best.
    I think you're being to constrictive with your results here. Most people who do not train for a good length of time would be poor judges using your conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by resonatemoore View Post
    I am writing a book on mixed martial arts technique, and I'm writing a chapter on how to tell if a striking technique and/or discipline is effective or bullshit. I'm coming up with guidelines for sniffing out the BS, and was wondering if there was a clear and concise list of requirements or essential elements to effective striking techniques and disciplines for MMA.

    So far, I have this...

    Disciplines

    1. Disciplines should include techniques that are capable of being tested in a competitive setting. If no one has ever pulled off the move in a boxing or muay thai competition, it probably won't work in MMA.
    The following all work in the ring and have video examples readily available on Youtube:
    360 backfists
    Tornado Kicks
    Flying Elbows
    Arm Punching
    Keeping your hands down
    Breakdancing
    Wild Haymakers
    ... and that is just off the top of my head.
    2. Disciplines should utilize techniques that are intended to damage or knock out the opponent. If the sport or discipline is based on contact or touch sparring, instead of power and impairment of the opponent, it probably won't work in MMA.
    I am sure this is flawed too somehow...
    Techniques
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Supreme View Post
    I think you're being to constrictive with your results here. Most people who do not train for a good length of time would be poor judges using your conclusions.
    Perhaps the OP is coming at this from the wrong direction and should point out areas (techniques, training methodologies, mindsets for lack of a better word, etc) that are indications of bs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hungryjoe View Post
    Perhaps the OP is coming at this from the wrong direction and should point out areas (techniques, training methodologies, mindsets for lack of a better word, etc) that are indications of bs.
    That's an idea.

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    Maybe he could start a website dedicated to such.
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    I had this idea for a rolling device to attach to an axle. You start with a flat square of material, then cut the corners off to make an octagon, then cut those corners off to make it more round, then keep cutting the corners off until it has a nice round shape. I call it the rollinator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Permalost View Post
    I had this idea for a rolling device to attach to an axle. You start with a flat square of material, then cut the corners off to make an octagon, then cut those corners off to make it more round, then keep cutting the corners off until it has a nice round shape. I call it the rollinator.
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