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    Discussion: Profiling Project verses Seth Rich

    There is probably no other subject in criminal justice/criminal investigation that is plagued by so much bullshit as what is commonly called "Criminal Profiling". You've probably seen the series, Criminal Minds or the movie Silence of the Lambs I'll be generous to this investigative tool by saying that it can provide investigative leads in a very small number of homicides that an investigator would find useful. However your average criminal investigator would much prefer a partial fingerprint, or some DNA, or something, anything less abstract. There are a whole bunch of people out there doing criminal profiling, and often rather badly. My article below concerns a volunteer group called the Profiling Project. But wait, Browning, didn't you used to lead investigations of martial arts screw-ups, utilizing volunteers at Bullshido.net? Why are you complaining? Answer: I'm complaining not because they are volunteers, but because their work sucks, which is the only thing that really matters.

    Read the whole article on the front page.
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    For people who only follow bulletpoints

    Do not attempt to do criminal profiling* if:

    You do not have crime scene photographs
    You do not have a copy of the autopsy report
    You do not have a copy of the police report/scene description.
    You do not have the results of any resulting forensic lab tests.

    Do not attempt to analyze the victim's personality and risk factors based solely on their internet footprint.

    Do not attempt to make deductions about the crime when your material only allows you to make inductions about what happened. "The offender absolutely must have picked up his brass!"

    Do not reach conclusions when you have left the supporting evidence out of your paper.

    Do not cherry pick your news-sources to support your theory of the case. If you use "facts" that support your case, at the very least explain why you don't agree with the accuracy of other facts which undermine your theory. For example can you explain why Fox News is incorrect that robberies were happening a block away from the site of the murder during roughly the same time period, which is why you are leaving it out of your paper?

    Don't mention things in your report like toxins without explaining why you are bringing this subject up.

    Don't use words that produce false or unwarranted impressions. For example describing a city intersection as "sterile". It's not, you simply don't know if the perpetrator left any physical evidence behind.

    Do not throw lots of irrelevant material into the report while not including needed material. I shouldn't have had to go looking for the MDP's incident report online, it should have been in an appendix because you relied upon it so heavily.

    Similarly a map of D.C. showing where Seth Rich lived, the bar where he drank that night, and his path home along with some photographs of the intersection where he died would have been very helpful.

    I could nit pick this report further but this is a start.

    *Historical cases are a possible exception to this rule. Sometimes the profiler will not have complete materials for say looking at Jack the Ripper's cases.
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    What retards.
    This is my favorite part:

    “The crime scene was very organized to the point of being sanitized.” As if a city intersection could be "sanitized".

    If I'm going to shoot a person in a public place, and leave them still concious and breathing no less, certainly I will spend any time I have to sanitize said city streets.

    Christ...

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    The FBI used to categorize crime scenes as disorganized, or organized depending on a number of factors such as whether the offender left much evidence behind, had arrived with what was called a "rape kit" for restraining the victim, or had gained immediate control over the victim. Blah, blah, blah, Not surprisingly, the description could tell you something about an offender at either end of the spectrum, but little about offenders in the middle since most crime scenes displayed both characteristics. For example a teen burglar brings a pry bar to get into a home, and then searches it, and loots it in a haphazard and time inefficient manner. Is he organized, or disorganized? Does it really matter?

    Here you have a crime that occurs in the early morning hours near a city intersection, and the offender, may, or may not have left evidence behind. But the "profilers" imitate the FBI, by still attempting to touch that "base".
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    Maybe this is the start of the new GOP for profit police service.

    Or just more stupid partisan BS....

    Good job Sam

    Also **** Jack Burkman
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    Sam,

    I have read the original post three or four times now.
    I am recovering from a string of surgeries, but feel as if my faculties are functioning somewhat close to normal... and I can't understand these people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Slamming the man in the bottom position from time to time keeps everybody on their toes and discourages butt scooting stupidity.

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    BFM:

    I hope your surgeries went well. They always take a lot out of people.

    All I can say is read the original report that I linked to.

    I can't do complete justice to the incoherence of the original product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Browning View Post
    BFM:

    I hope your surgeries went well. They always take a lot out of people.

    All I can say is read the original report that I linked to.

    I can't do complete justice to the incoherence of the original product.
    Ahhhh. Slight editing and linking and front page news and other slight actions have all added greatly to my attempts at understanding the situation.
    Thank you very very much for the work you have put into this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WFMurphyPhD View Post
    Slamming the man in the bottom position from time to time keeps everybody on their toes and discourages butt scooting stupidity.

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    Great thread, Sam. I'd contribute more, but this should be plenty.

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    This is part of the whole KILERYKLINTONPIZZAGATE stuff, I remember this now from 4chan;s /pol/, and The_Donald and r/conspiracy from Reddit.
    Where is our local pepe and kek and cuck specialist Matt Phillips?
    Quote Originally Posted by ghost55 View Post
    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
    I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.
    BILL HICKS,
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    Quote Originally Posted by WFMurphyPhD View Post
    Slamming the man in the bottom position from time to time keeps everybody on their toes and discourages butt scooting stupidity.

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