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    Bluming on Oyama

    A fun read i found here

    I have no idea if it is true. here it is


    In the past, I've avoided discussing the "famous" Kyokushin Kaikan
    karate business. I needed some time to think about saying anything now,
    too, as I wanted to be strictly honest toward the memory of my
    old "friend and teacher, Mas Oyama. He did a lot for me, introducing
    me to the karate world and giving me a new purpose in life. This
    changed my life completely for the best. For me, Oyama was like a
    father I never had. In the old days, he showed me all the things you
    need to be a teacher and helped me through some rough times. On the
    other hand, I am tired of all the phonies who did not go the straight

    So, let me tell it like it was.
    Published accounts describing Oyama preparing for the big karate
    championships in 1947 are very funny. Especially the Americans, who
    fought the Japanese in World War 11, should know that. MacArthur was
    the big honcho in Japan from August 1945, until the Korean War, and he
    declared right away that there was to be no more budo in Japan until he
    declared otherwise. He even rounded up all the samurai swords he could
    lay his hands on and had them dropped in Tokyo Bay. They would be worth
    hundreds of millions of dollars today. He was not messing around and
    nobody dared disobey his rules.

    Around 1948, judo started again at the old Kodokan on Suidobashi.
    Karate was done mainly by the Shotokan, where sparring matches were not
    allowed until the late 1950s, and by the Goju Kai and [email protected], where
    the sparring was so soft that a split lip or a nose bleed would throw
    the officials into a state of shock. So while there might have been
    some professional boxing clubs where fighting was done on a knockout
    basis, a karate championship in Kyoto done on such a basis was
    absolutely out of the question.
    When hearing stories about the old days, remember that the Japanese are
    great storytellers. If the story is good, they don't check to see if it
    is true. Even today, I meet people who heard from their fathers or
    grandfathers about the roughhousing I supposedly did in my younger
    days. It doesn't amaze me anymore and I am tired of telling people that
    the stories are impossible because if you hit somebody, you were hauled
    into a police station, charged, and sent to jail or kicked out of the
    country. I admit I had a few fights, but always with witnesses saying
    that I did not start it.

    As for Oyama's alleged 270 American bouts, remember that he was in the
    States as a professional wrestler. Since when are professional
    wrestling matches on the level? All Oyama ever told me about those days
    was that Americans were crazy, that their wrestling was phony and
    prearranged, and that as fighters, they were weak. My guess is that
    most of what he did was just break bricks and things between matches.
    If he had ever fought any of the American professional wrestlers,
    really fought them, I think he would have beaten most of them easily.

    The story about Oyama fighting bulls is not true. He never met a real
    bull, for he never visited Spain. I also doubt that he was gored, for
    he never told me about it and he used to tell me everything. Kurosaki
    Kenji was there and he told me what happened. They went early in the
    morning to a stock- yard in Tateyama Prefecture. Workmen prepared a fat
    old ox for Oyama by hitting one of its horns with a hammer so that it
    was quite loose. Oyama did not kill the ox he only knocked off the
    loose horn.

    Oyama showed Bill Backhus and I the 16mm "bull fighting" movie in 1959.
    1 told Oyama never to show this film in Europe because it looked too
    phony and everyone would laugh at him. As far as I know, nobody saw
    that movie again.

    Even Oyama's famous world championships of the 1970s were a joke. By
    then, foreigners were not allowed to win. To prevent it, Oyama had all
    the gaijin fight each other first, and of course pitted the best
    against each other. Because everyone wanted to win, the injuries were
    terrible. Meanwhile, he put the leading Japanese against low quality
    Japanese from his own school, who knew their place and of course didn't
    try too hard. So they had it easy.

    Occasionally, in the finals, the referee would give a good foreign
    fighter a decision over a Japanese fighter. Oyama would stand up all
    red in the face. Then he'd call the referee over to his table and chew
    him out and reverse his decision. This was against all the rules of
    sportsmanship. Read Nakamura Tadashi's book or go talk to him in New
    York. It is very emotional and very sad.

    Oyama was a strong man in his young days, but I never saw him fight
    anybody, not even in his own dojo. So his "countless encounters"
    and "challenges" were all before my time. Kurosaki Kenji tells me that
    they were all before his time, too, and that goes back to 1952, when
    they both trained at Yamaguchi Gogen's dojo in Tokyo. So I think maybe
    he never fought in his life.

    But he was a great teacher who trained many good fighters and his books
    were very popular. When I read his first book, What Is Karate? (1957),
    1 was really impressed. I was in his second book (This Is Karate, 1965)
    and had the opportunity to look into the way he did things.

    The thing that amazed me most was "the monkey business" (Oyama's own
    words) involved in the breaking tricks. I didn't know about this when I
    did my first breaking demonstration in Holland. Since I had read in
    Oyama's book, What Is Karate?, about somebody breaking twenty-five
    roofing tiles at once, I simply brought some tiles I had found along
    the road. I thought that twenty-five sounded like a lot, for these
    things were heavy and felt strong. So I only put eight on top of each
    other and gave it my best. I made it but nearly broke my wrist. Of
    course I wondered how that kid managed twenty-five.

    Well, I found out while working on the book, This Is Karate. I went to
    the pile of tiles they had prepared for punishment and picked up the
    top tile. It felt like paper, it was so light, and on its underside was
    a baked-in line along the length of the tile. So the middle of the tile
    was maybe a millimeter thick. No wonder a 110-pound chicken could go
    through twenty-five of them!

    The bricks were no different. They were specially baked and ii some-
    one leaned on them they would crumble. His wood was also very
    lightweight. As for that famous bottle trick, first you prepare the
    bottle by rolling a sharp stone around the bottle's neck. That way when
    you hit it, it breaks along the carved line.
    Kurosaki Kenji was the only one who really impressed me with his
    breaking tricks. Using his head, he broke two red bricks from British
    television. The nasty cracking sound horrified everybody watching. I
    was a good breaker, too, but I paid the price for my mistakes. Which
    brings me to the ice-breaking trick. When you break ice blocks, be
    careful. If you aren't, you'll hit the edge of the ice with your wrist
    rather than your shuto (knife-hand) and break your wrist instead of the
    ice. This happened to me in 1975.

    During a demonstration, Loek Hollander had arranged for each of us to
    break several big blocks of ice. What I did not know until years later
    is that he had arranged for workmen to cut his blocks almost in half
    using diamond strings and then refreeze them so that nobody would
    notice the cuts. On the other hand, my blocks were solid. Anyway, Loek
    broke his three blocks so easily that I forgot the rule about the wrist
    and immediately broke the little bone under my wrist. I was so angry
    that right away I hit again and went through the ice anyway. I was in a
    plaster cast for the next six weeks.

    As I said before, in 1963 1 opened my own budo club called the Budokai.
    Kurosaki Kenji came over in 1966, about the time Oyama started calling
    himself "the Godhand." Even the Japanese press laughs at that one. In
    1990, we changed the club's name to Kyokushin Budokai and, in 1966,
    some friends and I renamed it the International Budokaikan. Today it
    has many associated clubs and some real good fighters.
    In the Budokai we teach no kata, only fighting. Excepting Donn Draeger,
    I've never known a kata champion who could beat by grandmother in
    randori if she had her umbrella. To keep injuries down, we provide
    students with a lot of coaching and supervision. But, as the Japanese
    method of slapping people into line doesn't work in Europe, we don't
    make anyone do anything he doesn't want to do. Therefore, the standards
    are only as high as the individual makes them. Which can be very high,
    as the teams we send to full-contact tournaments usually win. For
    instance, in Tokyo in 1993, Chris Dolmen, our only 9th dan, became the
    first world champion in "free fighting." From 1994 to 1997, Budokai
    teams won the Japanese All-Round Karate Championships in Tokyo. As a
    result, the Japanese no longer allow us to compete.

    Unfortunately, there isn't much money in teaching budo this way. Today
    I'm retired, but to earn a living when I was younger, I took a fifteen
    percent partnership in a casino. The work kept me very busy, especially
    at night. I acted in seven movies, too, but the movies pay poorly in
    Holland so eventually I quit. Between the workload and the political
    squalor within the European Kyokushin Kaikan, in 197 1, I told Oyama
    that I was too busy to lead the organization and to give the job to
    Loek Hollander. Oyama was [email protected] ly upset. He pleaded with me, but I
    wanted to stop. Finally he gave in and Hollander got the job. Hollander
    then went and filled his pockets and killed the Kyokushin 'Kaikan. I
    now think that giving up the leadership to Hollander was the stupidest
    thing I ever did in my entire life.

    In 1976, some buddies and I were in Korea getting decorated for our
    service during the war. Afterwards, my wife and I went to Tokyo where I
    visited the Kyokushinkai honbu dojo for the first time in years. On the
    street in front were guards. The place looked like a yakuza
    headquarters - and for all I know, it is. Although he called
    himself "the Godhand," everybody else called Oyama "Mr. Ten Percent."
    This was due to his relations with various politicians and businessmen,
    including one Time magazine called the Godfather of Japan. In
    The "Young Lions" of Mas Oyama's Kyokushin Karate Headquarters (1985),
    Necef Artan tells how Oyama's students spent four hours a day going
    through Tokyo "asking shop keepers to display posters in their
    windows." Such activities would be protected rackets in Europe or
    America. But in Japan, politics and the yakuza are like a hand and a
    glove on a very cold day and one never does business without the other.
    Anyway, I went in the door and up the stairs to Oyama's office.
    Although Oyama wasn't there, the old memories came back and I got all
    choked up. The young black belts posted as guards obviously didn't
    recog, nize me, even though my picture was hanging on the wall. One
    went to stop me, so I gave him my best cold look and told him in
    Japanese who I was and added that if he touched me he would be a
    cripple instantly. The poor kid nearly had a heart attack, as Oyama had
    told them all kinds of stories about me. When I left, some of the kids
    touched my arm or shoulder and said they were honored. I talked to
    Oyama on the phone later the same day and afterward we ate dinner at an
    expensive Kobe beef restaurant.
    When Oyama went to wash his hands, his wife told me that he wanted me
    back with the Kyokushin Kaikan. So when he returned, we talked and I
    told him I would try again if he would first get rid of Loek Hollander.
    He wouldn't and that was that. The last time I saw Oyama alive was in
    1983. 1 was visiting Korea and a Korean general asked me what I did for
    work. When I told him, he said that he had a friend visiting from Japan
    who was a famous karate teacher named Oyama. Surprised, I told him my
    story. The general laughed and said, "Now I know why your name was
    familiar - you're Bluming, the Beast from Amsterdam!" Then he called
    Oyama and arranged for us to meet. The old man was really glad to see
    me and we had a good talk. He said he would send me a first class
    airline ticket so that I could come to Tokyo the following year. He
    even agreed to get rid of Loek Hollander. But in November 1983, 1 got a
    letter from the Kyokushin Kaikan saying that it did not want me back,
    and that I should look after my own business. It seems that Loek
    Hollander had told Oyama at a world conference that I was a gangster
    and had held up a bank with a drawn pistol. Now I admit that I was a
    partner in a casino, but that's hardly the same as being a gangster.
    What's more, if I were robbing banks with drawn pistols, then I
    wouldn't have been selected to serve as an honorary bodyguard for Dutch
    Prince Bernhard in 1986, 1991, and 1996. But anyway, Oyama believed
    Hollander's story, as have a lot of other people. Shortly before his
    death, Oyama discovered that I'd been right and Loek Hollander had been
    wrong. That's why today you'll find no articles about Loek Hollander or
    a picture with his name under it in any of the Japanese budo magazines:
    Oyama forbade it. To make things right, Oyama even sent Maeda Akira,
    7th dan, to Holland in the autumn of 1993. In April 1994, 1 was
    scheduled to go to Tokyo to talk to Oyama when I received a fax saying
    that he had just died of cancer. I cried and cried. I was so sad,
    angry, and frustrated.

    During the following months, I had several meetings with the new
    Kyokushin Kaikan leaders. Loek Hollander was still there and he and his
    cronies still struck me as more interested in money than in budo. Mean-
    while, the Japanese walked and talked like the hottest thing on earth -
    and still couldn't put together a team that could win against shoot-
    boxing, which in my eyes is a very weak kind of freestyle fighting. So
    that was the end of that.

    As for Mas Oyama, in the teaching of the Buddha it is written, "Can a
    student be angry with his teacher?" The more devoted the student, the
    more privileges he has! But those privileges do not include lies. To a
    stranger I might sound bitter but I am not. Mas Oyama turned my life
    around, all for the best. He had a good heart and was an excellent
    teacher. As for every- thing else, I wish the politics in the various
    judo and karate organizations would have been less. I wish I'd been
    born a better diplomat, as maybe that would have helped. I wish Oyama
    hadn't died, as his death means I can't talk to him anymore, or tell
    him the love I still have for him because of the old days. I wish the
    Japanese weren't so nationalistic and conceited, and that they would
    have given Donn Draeger the credit he deserved as a teacher, coach,
    fighter, and writer. What makes me saddest, though, is to have to admit
    that so much of what passes for budo is really nothing more than monkey

    This is from a site that is now down:

    Originally posted by fug
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    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez


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        "Recently, I read several times that Oyama killed many bulls in his time. The jackpot was during a meeting between England, France and Japan when some commentator told a packed stadium that Oyama had killed 28 bulls in his life. How ignorant and stupid can that be! But that’s how it all started. Read his so-called comic book from years back, which one of his students wrote, and you’ll find a story in which the student said that the “Beast of Amsterdam (me)” and Oyama Sensei would go into a bar where mostly yakuza were around, pick a fight and clean the place out. Well, I had many dinners with Oyama Sensei, but I went never to a bar with him and certainly did not take a drink in those days. Second, in those old days, if you simply slapped a Japanese citizen without any cause — or even with a cause — you were so fast on your way home that you wouldn’t believe it. On top of that, a yakuza bar! Too much! Taking on the fanatic Japanese yakuza it is a great story! Maybe one guy but the rest would shoot you or take a sword to you and chop you in two. I don’t know why they write these stupid stories. Even Matsui Sensei asked how it was fighting together with Oyama in bars! You would think he had more brains. As it turns out, the Japanese want to believe those stories. When I told him what really happened, he was upset and said that we all should keep the legends alive. Well, I am sorry. I worked too hard and broke too many body parts to let them make me the laughing stock because of stupid stories. Besides, I think that the truth is more amazing than any stupid lie.

        Q: With all the technical changes during the last 30 years, do you think there are still pure karate styles, such as kyokushinkai, shotokan, shito-ryu, et cetera?

        A: I don’t know what you mean by “pure.” In my opinion, every style in its basic movements are pure from their point of view. I know that not too many budoka or those you think they are budoka can take the truth. And the truth is that most of the so-called old and so-called famous styles are over because they fell apart. They ended up in many different groups, despite the fact that many of them think that they were “tough guys.” What they forget to mention, especially in Japan, is that they never won a good fight in the Western part of the world, and we all know now that the famous Kyokushinkai-kan World Championships were rigged all the way. You only have to ask Nakamura, who left the New York honbu, because of all the terrible things that happened behind closed doors. I knew about this lousy behavior and told Oyama Sensei not to go on with this because one day everybody was going to find out. Anyway, I think that the purest style from way back is in Okinawa and China because they got the green light to get back on the real wushu track again. In the near future, we will hear about China. Shito-ryu is the school of my old friend and multibillionaire Jotsky Matsuura, a 10th dan within his own organization. I was about to join him as vice-president, but Kenji Kurosaki, a 10th dan from Budokai, was against it, so I didn’t. Jotsky showed me a kata in his office, and the movements very good movements. For the rest, I really don’t know much about the purity of styles.

        Q: Compared to the time you began training, what is martial arts training missing today?

        A: Very simple. Real, dedicated budoka who — as a way of life or as exercise — do budo and have respect for their teachers and elders in the dojo. Nowadays, it seems like everything is a race to the higher ranking and a run on the money wagon. It is sad, but there are not that many real budoka who practice and teach the martial arts as a way of life. Once again, the average guy doesn’t know the difference so, these individuals can get away with it. Look at some of the websites; they are a bunch of old farts who haggle and fight on the side instead of spending their time in the dojo. If they knew what they were talking about, it would not stink that much, but most of them don’t. Even when I proved to them, which I did some time ago, and I recognize that was stupid of me because you can bring a monkey to the peanuts but so cannot make him eat them, they had all kinds of funny things to say. Of course, they never could back anything up. When you look into the men’s eyes, you’ll find out that they have not done one single day of training in the last 20 or more years! I wonder how they make money; it is certainly not with budo. Now, as long as that kind of people are on the Internet and keep popping off the most ridiculous lines, I’ll keep thinking that the old days were better. Certainly as far as respect is concerned.

        Q: What is your opinion of kickboxing and other modern fighting events such as the UFC?

        A: In 1989, Chris Dolman and I went to Tokyo to participate in the first free-fight held in Tokyo and Osaka. That was the UWF. Soon after that the sponsors started to create a lot of differences among them. I’m talking about the Japanese organizers, of course. Now, don’t forget that there was and still is a lot of money involved in Japan in these kinds of events. Akira Maeda founded Rings Japan. It finally died, and I thought it was a good organization. Free-fight or “all-around-karate” as I like to call it, is a good way to show your complete fighting ability in the ring and make some money on the side. It is completely different from basic karate, and to be honest, the traditional budoka, those who are into traditional karate or judo, don’t have any chance at all against one of these MMA or NHB guys. Don’t forget that there are not that many real good “complete” fighters in the world. It takes a real man who can take pain and is not afraid to do a hard workout everyday, punishing his body and going through a lot of physical pain and injuries. Full-contact karate is the first step to a complete fighter, but there are more aspects involved. One of my students started with traditional karate and then got into full-contact, following the program I have developed in Budokai. He won the Daidi Juku and the Pancrase championships three times. Later, he won Pride and K-1. In K-1, he beat three-time world champ Ernesto Hoost. Unfortunately, the judges declared it a draw because they knew Hoost was a big draw for the people in Japan and had to be in the finals. Let me tell you something. When you are knocked down in several rounds and have a cut in your head of almost five inches, that is not a draw. Also, Ernesto Hoost is a student of my student, Johan Vos, a sixth dan, and Jan Plas, an eighth dan of the Budokai.
        A man must do what he really wants to do. If you are not up to it, regardless of what it is, don’t do it because you will never be happy and it will never bring you the proper rewards. But if you want to be a real fighter and prove yourself in kickboxing or MMA, you are in for hard work and a very hard game. But never forget … some budoka —real ones — love that way so I think it is a good thing that they have that chance to prove themselves, even if some people who have never trained for real in the martial arts make the real money.

        Another funny thing that is happening these days is that you hear or read that there is a seminar in the Pancrase style of fighting or in Pride’s system of combat, et cetera. Don’t let yourself be fooled by these people — even if they are good fighters — because there is no Pancrase style or Pride style. This is all “BS.” Men, who are simply in it for the money, run these seminars. In many European countries, you can be extremely disappointed because many of these so-called “extreme fighters” don’t know what the hell they are doing, especially in the groundwork area. They are terrible. But at least they are out there fighting instead of being on their website pretending to be tough guys.

        Q: Do you think events like the UFC and other NHB events represent the true essence of fighting?

        A: In a way they do because you see the real champions after many years of hard training. It’s not like they are showing a kata, knowing that on the street any street fighter or boxer would kick their ass. It just depends on what you want to get from budo. If doing your kata three times a week in your dojo is satisfying, it serves your idea of budo. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Certainly not if you are happy. But if an individual starts bragging about how good and dangerous he is and he really doesn’t fight, then he is not only an idiot but also a very immature individual. All talk and nothing behind it to back it up. That’s what you see in many people these days. I honestly think that real pro fighting proves a point that Muhammad Ali and many other great boxing champs proved in the past … they could fight. Period.

        Q: Do you think that karate in the West has caught up with Japanese karate?

        A: Definitely. In the old days, we looked forward to meeting Japanese judoka and karate masters because we wanted to learn from them. Today, however, the Western world has much better fighters and teachers than those living in the East. This is not just talk. For many years, the Japanese have been coming to Europe and the United States to learn how to fight in MMA and NHB events. You do not really find too many Japanese masters teaching in Europe because we don’t need them anymore. In a way that’s good, but for budoka like me who knew the old days, it makes me a sad and homesick for my second country (Japan) and my old sensei. They are almost all dead now, but I keep them in fond memory and have pictures of them all over my place. I know time changes a lot of things and sometimes not for the best. When my Japanese friends lost the world judo title in 1970 in Paris, I was very sad, even if it was my countryman Anton Geesink who won. That day was the beginning of an era. The Japanese hegemony was finally broken and nowadays anybody can win in world karate tournaments or Olympic judo. In the old days, if 10 Japanese entered a championship, they all won. In karate, it is a different thing from the very beginning. Shotokan stylists never won a title in real contact karate. Neither did wado-ryu. From the very beginning in 1970, the kyokushinkai has been the main style, and some of the Japanese fighters were real good until Willy Williams appeared and destroyed them. They could not stop progress, and the gaijin won, opening new doors for everybody to enter.

        Q: Do you feel that there are any fundamental differences in the technical approach and physical capabilities of Japanese karate-ka in comparison to Western karate-ka?

        A: Yes. Physically, a Japanese person is much more flexible than the average European or American. In a way, that should be an advantage. In reality, it is not and the overall mental ability of the Europeans and Americans is much stronger than the average Japanese. That’s a hardcore problem, but I believe that the average Japanese does practice much harder that the Westerner does.

        Q: Karate and judo are nowadays often referred to as sports. Would you agree with this definition?

        A: Of course, they are sports, and it is a pity that competitors cannot make more money or make a good living competing. This is especially the case for those who are really dedicated and put all the time of their lives into it. If I look at soccer players, I see millionaires all over the place. Many of them can hardly write their names. If they were not lucky enough to be able to do what they do on the field, they would not even get a job cleaning lavatories in Morocco. So, if a good karateka trains hard and gets somewhere winning a lot of titles, I think he deserves much more than being considered an amateur. The same goes for judokas and all MMA fighters. Again, the answer is yes. They are sports at the highest level, but the money is not there.

        Q: Do you feel that you still have further to go in your studies of the arts?

        A: Yes I do. The first thing a man needs to do is try to understand what goes on in his mind. This concept especially applies to those who never made anything good for the martial arts, mainly because they never trained hard and put themselves to test. It is sad how many people who have never been properly trained are running a dojo and misleading students. Sometimes people write me letters and invite me to visit them and teach a seminar. I am a so-called professional, but I go there anyway, even if they have the money to pay for my trip. Why? Because I love seeing people with passion and dedication. If you give them a chance and they train hard, they will be excellent budoka. My body today does not want to do the things I used to do. Once warmed up, however, I can still kick serious butt. Believe me. But it is mostly the mind, which is working in high gear all the time. With the time I have left, I will use it to show other budoka what real budo is all about. And I hope this will help them long after I am gone.

        Q: Do you think it helps the empty-hand techniques of karate to train with weapons?

        A: Not really, especially if your intention is the empty-hand fighting side of this discipline. Besides, you just cannot walk the streets with weapons. However, training with weapons can give you an edge if you have to defend yourself against someone using a weapon. For this, it is helpful. For a sparring session or full-contact karate match, no way. I did it just to get a better understanding of the Japanese bushido, the discipline and the feeling of those old days when the sword could get you killed or make you a hero. Meeting those terrific old teachers and feeling their spirit was a tremendous way of living budo and understanding how it all came about. I wouldn’t have missed it for the world, but it won’t help you in judo or karate or whatever fighting sport when you have to face an empty-handed opponent.

        Q: What’s your opinion of makiwara training?

        A: The first time I saw Peter Urban, Kurosaki Sensei and Mas Oyama’s knuckles I thought it was the trademark of a true karateka. In a way it still is, but on the other hand, I know many so-called “budoka” who — despite having tremendous knuckles — would lose to my grandmother. She could kick their butts with an umbrella. So, it [large knuckles] does not really mean that the man is a good fighter. It’s simply appearance. I did a lot of makiwara, and I can tell you that it makes a man out of you if you do it the correct way. The first time I used the makiwara I had a swollen hand with a huge blister on top of it. When I showed it to Mas Oyama the next day, he said, “Good. Now go hit the makiwara 200 more times.” The first time makes you sick because you can feel the blisters explode. The impact creates a horrible watery sound, almost as if somebody was putting a knife in my rear end. Two weeks later I was breaking bricks with the same hand and that was the end of it. I had karate hands. For “normal” karate practice, it is certainly not necessary. If you are a so-called karate teacher who must show what you preach, it is a must. I can hit the wall with all my power and don’t feel anything. When I am in real danger, I know that I have a weapon I can rely on. When I hit and connect, Of this I am sure.

        Q: Let’s say that a practitioner is also an instructor. How different should his personal training be from his teaching schedule?

        A: It depends very much on his age. When young, he should do as I did and have a special class for champions and fighters. Train with them, and you’ll stay while teaching. Be a real karate sensei. When you are older, it is better not to do as I do, which is fighting on the ground with some real rough guys. Don’t forget that the injuries you get when you are young stay with you, and the ones you get when you are 70 years old will not go away as easily as they did when you were a young kid. Trust me. The old injuries will play a big part in your daily life after you are 55 or 60 years old. Arthritis will set in on these joints and old fractures. I can honestly say that I have hardly had a single day without any pain for the last 30 years. And it is getting worse as we speak. My doctor says I’d better stop fighting right now. But I told him it is my hobby and that is the price I must pay. If I stop, I will die.
        Let me return to your question. It is better is to have several classes; one for those who want to practice but not do any fighting; one for those interested in budo and one for the real fighters who want to enter professional competition. Don’t put them together because you’ll get what I got in the old days: some terrific fighters and a lot of students who ran away as fast as they signed up when they saw how hard the fighters were treating the rest of the guys in the class. I did not care in those days, for I made my money as a business partner in casinos. That’s the reason why we won all the championships in judo, karate and free fighting. The students who stayed in those classes were real fighters. It is good for the fighting side of the school but not for the business aspect of it.

        Q: When teaching the art of karate, is self-defense, sport or tradition the most important element?

        A: The answer is a combination of all three aspects, but there is something very important that you have to remember here. When a new member applies for membership, he is not joining to learn kata. He wants to beat up as many people on the streets as he meets. When they say that they don’t come for that and when they say that they are signing up for the spiritual side of the martial arts, you have a terrible liar in front of you. I had some real punks come into the dojo in the 1960s and 1970s, and I always beat them up on the first day just to show them who was the boss and who was the sensei in the school. A lot of them could not take it and left, but some of them became real good budoka. They went on to become good and dedicated teachers and fighters and very seldom had to fight on the streets. That’s the type of budoka that I love, and that’s why it is all worth it. Those who leave end up talking on the Internet and telling lies on their websites.

        Q: You seem to be very upset with people talking on the Internet. Why?

        A: Because it is a very easy way for those cowards who don’t have the courage – and I would love to use another word – to criticize and bad-mouth others who dedicate their whole lives to budo and have the scars to prove it. It is very easy to write and talk trash, but it’s impossible to find one of these cowards who will show up and tell you things to your face so you can get back at them with your fist. Talk is cheap, and the Internet helps to make even cheaper!

        Q: What’s the proper ratio between kata and kumite?

        A: I brought the so-called new kata to Europe for the first time in 1961 and then again in 1966. We even won championships in that category. Again, I believe it is important to make separate classes for those particular aspects of karate. At the same time, a fighter must not forget that when he is undergoing an examination for a dan — especially a higher dan — he must show the correct kata with a correct skill level. If he is a champion, he can get by with a good understanding, but he must also show the correct techniques in the proper way because karate is more than fighting.

        Everybody must do it according to the way he sees the art, how it best applies to his dojo and what is best for his students. The International Budokaikan will never impose how things must be done inside any dojo. But when the students come to the test, you can see how the instructor is and what he is teaching in his school. Students are the reflections of the teachers in many ways. You need to provide freedom, but at the same time, you must maintain a good structure for the art to grow. If the karate people had done that from the beginning, karate would now be the bigger than soccer."
        "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez


          "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez


            Very interesting read ...

            "Q: You seem to be very upset with people talking on the Internet. Why?

            A: Because it is a very easy way for those cowards who don’t have the courage – and I would love to use another word – to criticize and bad-mouth others who dedicate their whole lives to budo and have the scars to prove it. It is very easy to write and talk trash, but it’s impossible to find one of these cowards who will show up and tell you things to your face so you can get back at them with your fist. Talk is cheap, and the Internet helps to make even cheaper!"

            And here we are today.


              That just blew my mind.

              So none of the Mas Oyama stories are true?...


                Hmmm.... I seem to recall saying that.

                No, none of them are true. He never fought the bulls, its all bull....


                  Well the Bull thing I was skeptical about anyway.

                  But this...

                  Oyama was a strong man in his young days, but I never saw him fight
                  anybody, not even in his own dojo. So his "countless encounters"
                  and "challenges" were all before my time. Kurosaki Kenji tells me that
                  they were all before his time, too, and that goes back to 1952, when
                  they both trained at Yamaguchi Gogen's dojo in Tokyo. So I think maybe
                  he never fought in his life.


                    I will only say that my understanding is exactly the same as Bluming Sensei.

                    PS: I have gotten in trouble for saying this before too; but while Bluming is a very tough guy, he is NOT one of the good guys.

                    You will need to have read the Spencer series by the late Robert Parker to understand the context of that.


                      There are actual videos of Oyama fighting bulls. Like on Youtube. Are they faked or it isn't actually Oyama?

                      Ok I reread the OP I can't tell a Bull from an Ox. :(
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                        A lot of interesting stuff in there. In my few months in kyokushin, I'd definitely heard a lot of stories. I mean, it wasn't hard to tell a lot of them were blown out of proportion for the sake of the story, but I never would have figured so much of it to be outright lies.

                        Also, this guy's grandmother must be a serious badass.


                          Damn, all my illusions shattered.

                          Fuck Mark, I didn't know he (Parker) was dead. Just read that and looked it up and sitting here with tears in my eyes. I was hoping for another Spenser (like the poet, not the gun).


                            Originally posted by Mtripp View Post
                            I will only say that my understanding is exactly the same as Bluming Sensei.

                            PS: I have gotten in trouble for saying this before too; but while Bluming is a very tough guy, he is NOT one of the good guys.

                            You will need to have read the Spencer series by the late Robert Parker to understand the context of that.
                            Bluming has been involved in some big time kyokushin drama. He has also fallen out with alot of people. I'm not following it really closely, but I believe he has been kicked out of his own IBK organisation.

                            For the Dutch/Flemish speaking posters here: search the mixfight forums for Bluming and IBK, the drama thread is 20 pages long or something, where all the old grudges are being fought out.


                              Originally posted by jonathan_sicari View Post
                              Damn, all my illusions shattered.

                              Fuck Mark, I didn't know he (Parker) was dead. Just read that and looked it up and sitting here with tears in my eyes. I was hoping for another Spenser (like the poet, not the gun).
                              Sorry to spring it on you like that. It was a huge shock for me back in January. I have been a huge fan from day one, and highly recommend his work to everyone.

                              I know he has another Spenser book finished. I am not sure what is left. One hopes he wrote a definitive ending to the series to prevent someone from taking it over and killing it.

                              That said, lets be honest, Spenser was a Korean War vet; that would make him about 80 now, and kinda unable to do what was in the books these days. It was time for a reset of the time line.

                              But he created one of the greatest characters in all of Detective fiction, right up there with Sherlock Holmes and Nero Wolfe. He will be missed.



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