Do you guys seriously doubt Robert Bussey's abillity?

[rw4th]

Oh boy, Robert "The King of Combat" Bussey, this brings back memories. The guy was a Bujinkan ninjer who branched off to do his own thing and mixed in some TKD, an unhealthy dose of imagination, and some Christian Fundamentalism. I still have his book somewhere with the rest of my old ninja books. The guy was self-promoting a douche nozzle then, and it looks like not much has changed. Here's his current web site: http://www.robertbussey.com/. In the "Videos and Imagery" section you'll find videos of what he's doing these days.

If you want to learn how to fight from a self-promoting douche, at least pick one whose stuff actually works (like say Tony Blauer) and who doesn't require you growl like a retarded puppy.

[Sam Browning]

Question Two Grasshopper,

Steven Seagal is at his most deadly when:

a) Starring in Out for Justice or Marked for Death
b) Throwing Japanese mobsters out of his Japanese Dojo
c) Being interviewed by Black Belt Magazine about his CIA career.
d) In a domestic dispute with his now ex-wife.
e) In the buffett line when someone cuts in front of him before he gets seconds.

[rw4th]

Question Two Grasshopper,

Steven Seagal is at his most deadly when:

a) Starring in Out for Justice or Marked for Death
b) Throwing Japanese mobsters out of his Japanese Dojo
c) Being interviewed by Black Belt Magazine about his CIA career.
d) In a domestic dispute with his now ex-wife.
e) In the buffett line when someone cuts in front of him before he gets seconds.

All I'll say is DO NOT get between him and the shrimp ... just don't.

[shadow_priest_x]

Oh boy, Robert "The King of Combat" Bussey, this brings back memories. The guy was a Bujinkan ninjer who branched off to do his own thing and mixed in some TKD, an unhealthy dose of imagination, and some Christian Fundamentalism. I still have his book somewhere with the rest of my old ninja books. The guy was self-promoting a douche nozzle then, and it looks like not much has changed. Here's his current web site: http://www.robertbussey.com/. In the "Videos and Imagery" section you'll find videos of what he's doing these days.

If you want to learn how to fight from a self-promoting douche, at least pick one whose stuff actually works (like say Tony Blauer) and who doesn't require you growl like a retarded puppy.

To be honest, I'm not really into what he's doing these days. I would've preferred that he kept RBWI going. But let me ask you: In the video I posted above (not the interview, the techniques video), aside from the MC Hammer pants and the crazy growling, what is your problem with his techniques? Especially considering that was put out in the mid-90s before the MMA craze really took off?

Think about it. He wasn't out there teaching horse stances and reverse punches. He was evolving his art into something more and more effective. I don't see how anyone could have a problem with it. It's legit.

[Devil]

To be honest, I'm not really into what he's doing these days. I would've preferred that he kept RBWI going. But let me ask you: In the video I posted above (not the interview, the techniques video), aside from the MC Hammer pants and the crazy growling, what is your problem with his techniques? Especially considering that was put out in the mid-90s before the MMA craze really took off?

Think about it. He wasn't out there teaching horse stances and reverse punches. He was evolving his art into something more and more effective. I don't see how anyone could have a problem with it. It's legit.

You're getting way off track on your own thread. You said he's an uber-badass. We sighed with boredom. Get off his nuts.

[shadow_priest_x]

You're getting way off track on your own thread. You said he's an uber-badass. We sighed with boredom. Get off his nuts.

I do think he's pretty bad ass. My main contention was not that he's the best fighter in the world or that he's going to conquer the UFC. Rather, it was that he's a real martial arts practitioner who teaches good things.

In some other threads I've seen him compared to guys who clearly teach FRADULENT things. Like, Konigun ninjutsu for instance. I've seen some of their videos. All you have to do is look at it to see something that clearly looks retarded. My point is that if you watch an RBWI training video then it doesn't look retarded, it looksl ike real fighting.

[pauli]

Fixed.

yes. and i wrote it while looking at the records, too, which makes it even more impressive.

[OniSan81]

I have Robert Bussey's DVDS from his RBWI days. As far as I can gather, he is the most skilled overal martial artist I have ever seen, at least one video. The locks he created and changed are some of the most unique locks I've seen. His work with the hanbo is unreal. Here is a link to more of his vids:

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance...obert%2Bbussey

I don't know. I was totally blown away with what I saw from him.

[Devil]

I do think he's pretty bad ass. My main contention was not that he's the best fighter in the world or that he's going to conquer the UFC. Rather, it was that he's a real martial arts practitioner who teaches good things.

In some other threads I've seen him compared to guys who clearly teach FRADULENT things. Like, Konigun ninjutsu for instance. I've seen some of their videos. All you have to do is look at it to see something that clearly looks retarded. My point is that if you watch an RBWI training video then it doesn't look retarded, it looksl ike real fighting.

There's NOTHING special about what he does. You're easily impressed. And there is absolutely no evidence to suggest he's a badass. What do you base those ideas on? Compliant demonstrations? Someone else who says he's a badass? There's no genuine evidence of sho-nuff badassery. You probably think Hatsumi is badass too, don't you.

[shadow_priest_x]

There's NOTHING special about what he does. You're easily impressed. And there is absolutely no evidence to suggest he's a badass. What do you base those ideas on? Compliant demonstrations? Someone else who says he's a badass? There's no genuine evidence of sho-nuff badassery. You probably think Hatsumi is badass too, don't you.

You're missing my point. Compliant demonstrations of legit techniques are proof that what he teaches is a legit style of fighting. All I'm saying is that Robert Bussey does not = Bullshido.

With that said. . .

I would say that in the 80s there WAS something special about what he did. It may not be very practical today and he doesn't even teach/practice it anymore, but it's pretty cool to watch a guy curve a throwing star around a wall and make it stick in a target he can't even see.

EDIT: Actually, let me go on. The truth is that at the time he was really active, there was also something about what he was doing even in the field of hand to hand combat. At the time (80s and early 90s) a lot of people were still believing pretty deeply in traditionally applied TMA. He was an innovator. There weren't a lot of people at that time who were using Bruce Lee's philosophy of "use any tactic that works" but he was. And if the reports of "cage fighting" in order to determine what really does and doesn't work (listen to my interview if you don't know what i'm talking about) are correct and if in fact he did beat a lot of people who walked through the door to challenge him, then that's pretty fucking special, too.

[rw4th]

There's NOTHING special about what he does. You're easily impressed. And there is absolutely no evidence to suggest he's a badass. What do you base those ideas on? Compliant demonstrations? Someone else who says he's a badass? There's no genuine evidence of sho-nuff badassery. You probably think Hatsumi is badass too, don't you.

It's the growling. The thought of a man handling him roughly while growling probably stimulates some deep vein of repressed sexuality in him.

[OniSan81]

Bussey only really got strange for me after the RBWI days.

[Devil]

Easily impressed? I just spent weeks with Vunak, and he impressed me. Bussey has impressed me on the same level. And no I am not a big Hatsumi fan, though his concepts are very interesting to me. I train Ninpo through the Genbukan.

Dude, I wasn't even quoting you. But you're a ninjer, so you're easily impressed, too.

[OniSan81]

Ninjer, on top of BB in Kyokushin, Krav Maga and Jujutsu...so I do have a nice rounding of experience.

[Devil]

You're missing my point. Compliant demonstrations of legit techniques are proof that what he teaches is a legit style of fighting. All I'm saying is that Robert Bussey does not = Bullshido.

I'm not missing your point. You're just wrong. Compliant demonstrations of legit techniques most definitely are NOT proof that what he teaches is a legit style of fighting. Any asshole can learn a technique well enough to demonstrate it on an unresisting opponent. Doesn't mean he's good enough to use it in a fight. And I didn't say he is or isn't Bullshido. I said you're a nutrider for assuming he's a bad ass when there is insufficient evidence to determine that.