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    #31
    Originally posted by grega
    Nick i only posted here because i found that my name had been "used in vain" (by you) in a search.
    Hi Greg...um, sorry man, but how do I know you? And when did I use your name? (I know a few Gregs so please excuse my ignorance)

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      #32
      GREG!

      Wait wait...hold up. It wasn't me that dropped your name, Greg. It was Virus, here:

      http://www.bullshido.net/forums/show...rn#post1183778

      OMG...and Virus is saying something NICE...about a BUJER!!!!
      (Virus, you okay? :icon_bigg )

      On the other hand, I just spoke to my sensei, Craig Guest, and he had nothing but good things to say about you, adding that from memory you were another bujinkan school that had sparring, pressure testing and resistance work....welcome brother....we need as many as we can get.

      Don't mind people like hedge...he's just flexing his wee muscles.
      Stick around. As people come to know you areound here they'll listen to what you have to say if its valid.

      ~Nick

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        #33
        Yeah, i'm just marking my territory. It has nothing at all to do with the fact that every bujinkan groundfighting video has been godawful.
        Last edited by Hedgehogey; 6/07/2007 2:37am, .

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          #34
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            #35
            Originally posted by Hedgehogey
            Yeah, i'm just marking my territory. It has nothing at all to do with the fact that every bujinkan groundfighting video has been godawful.
            Yeah but to be fair, every bujinkan video has been awful.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Hedgehogey
              Yeah, i'm just marking my territory. It has nothing at all to do with the fact that every bujinkan groundfighting video has been godawful.
              The sad thing here is that people in the Bujinkan have been trying to put together a workable grappling program since just after UFC 1 and some 14 years later the only people with anything to show in term of grappling skill all acquired it by training in Judo or BJJ.

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                #37
                Originally posted by rw4th
                The sad thing here is that people in the Bujinkan have been trying to put together a workable grappling program since just after UFC 1 and some 14 years later the only people with anything to show in term of grappling skill all acquired it by training in Judo or BJJ.
                I didn't know there was any dedicated effort to do that. I thought there was just the occasional compliant crapple session followed by back pats all round because that proves that "taijutsu works on the ground"

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Virus
                  I didn't know there was any dedicated effort to do that. I thought there was just the occasional compliant crapple session followed by back pats all round because that proves that "taijutsu works on the ground"

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                    #39
                    This whole "fighting on the ground is the same as fighting standing, only you're horizontal" crap REALLY pisses me off.

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                      #40
                      Is that so? ph33r t3h ichimonji mount defence? I've heard of rubbish like ichimonji and jumonji on the ground though.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Virus
                        Is that so? ph33r t3h ichimonji mount defence? I've heard of rubbish like ichimonji and jumonji on the ground though.
                        OMG that is sad.
                        Just WTF is ichimonji and jumoji on the ground?
                        Do students actually buy into this?

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                          #42
                          Ichimonji:



                          Jumonji:



                          What's sad is that they're just as useless standing up.

                          Do student's believe it? Some do. A lot of bujinkan students believe anything if it comes from the right authority. (hatsumi or shihan)

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                            #43
                            The guys who go on and on about how jumonji no kamae being vaguely similiar to the "I dream of Jeannie" position your arms are in when you do an armbar proves that the bujinkan has had a complete ground game all along remind me of those theorists back in the late 19th century who pointed out how similiarities in mono, bi or tri syllabic words of widely divergent languages proves that the Basques are actually Celts, or we're all secretly descendents of an Atlantean master race or BJJ came from India, or whatever eurocentric psuedoscience prevailed at the time.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Hedgehogey
                              The guys who go on and on about how jumonji no kamae being vaguely similiar to the "I dream of Jeannie" position your arms are in when you do an armbar proves that the bujinkan has had a complete ground
                              Who says that? Got any links because that makes for good comedy. What's the "I dream of genie" position?

                              Yeah, and they also sound like people who get pictures of boxers who happen to have one hand low and say "zomg chambered punches!" or a judoka who happens to bend down a bit and "Look horse stance FTW!!111111elevenone"

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Virus
                                Ichimonji:



                                Jumonji:



                                What's sad is that they're just as useless standing up.

                                Do student's believe it? Some do. A lot of bujinkan students believe anything if it comes from the right authority. (hatsumi or shihan)
                                Thanks Virus,
                                You mean there are actually ninjas out there that advise going into those kind of kamae while on the ground??????
                                I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.
                                It sounds like these people still believe that fighting on the ground is exactly the same as standing, except you're horizontal.

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