BJJ White Belt Vs Judo Black Belts

[Pandinha]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk2Bboyfdgk

[Pandinha]

Ass kicking. But then again, it's Baby Jay Penn.

[Odacon]

Was he really a white belt at the time though?

[JohnnyCache]

What's with the jazz flute?

Those seemed like pretty passive judoka to me...

[RoninPimp]

I read on another forum that he was a BJJ purple then.

[JKDChick]

And that makes it less impressive?

[RunningDog]

I've tapped Judo BBs, and I'm a white. Does that make me a BJ Penn-level badass?
Or not?

I guess not.

[JohnnyCache]

And that makes it less impressive?

Since the clip is called "BJJ white Vs judo black" then I would say some of the wind is taken out of that if his rank in BJJ was, in fact, higher. The grappling itself is no less impressive, though.

[Lefty]

I read that BJ Penn was actually a black belt (or almost) in BJJ in that video and dressed as a white belt for the Judo competition. So he was FAR higher than a BJJ white belt - so the video is a downright lie. Makes me think why do they promote it the way they do? Fake marketing claims = bullshido.

[aaaargh]

If he really was a white belt, then of course that would mean that BJJ is inherently better than Judo.

[Lefty]

A few other things:

BJ Penn never gets an Ippon in that entire video which is the goal of Judo.

Penn does moves I dont think are permitted in Judo competition eg. he tries to do an uchimata and when that fails he jumps on the standing Judoka's back. I've never seen that before and doubt jumping on someone's back is permitted. I wonder why this wasnt picked up by refs?

Also you only get 10 seconds to ground grapple in those competitions and the refs seem very lax about standing the players up again. The refs allow him to win on the ground by giving him the time to do so.

[Lefty]

If he really was a white belt, then of course that would mean that BJJ is inherently better than Judo.

But he wasn't a white belt thats the whole point. He was atleast purple belt - which is almost black belt - if he wasnt black belt already. It takes a looong time to get to purple belt. Therefore the title is a total fabrication - a dishonest marketing ploy.

Also you have to ask yourself better at what? There's reasons why people cross train in BJJ and Judo.

[Odacon]

He's Bj, he can do what he likes. Except cardio.

[Lefty]

So its okay for him to lie? Martial arts cult mentality man... Dont question the great leader. This is more BJJ marketing bullshido.

[MacWombat]

But he wasn't a white belt thats the whole point. He was atleast purple belt - which is almost black belt - if he wasnt black belt already. It takes a looong time to get to purple belt. Therefore the title is a total fabrication - a dishonest marketing ploy.

Also you have to ask yourself better at what? There's reasons why people cross train in BJJ and Judo.

It didn't take BJ Penn a long time to get a purple. He got his black in three years so his purple was probably around 1.5. Many people are still white belts at a year and a half in. Also do you have any proof that he wasn't a white belt?