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    #16
    Thanks Pat for that post on the Tracy site. I just glanced through it, and will study more of it later, as I was getting way involved in the reading and since I am currently at work, that is a bad thing. :)
    Jeremy M. Talbott

    Originally posted by Phrost
    "Bullshido isn't just a place to hang out when you're browsing the net. We really are trying to accomplish something fucking extraordinary here that nobody's ever had the balls to do before."
    Originally posted by D.Murray
    "Which is better, to learn the truth, or to enjoy the illusion of being right when you are not?"
    Originally posted by hangooknamja88
    My definition of Ki is our energy. it's rather hard to explain it in words. It's not some mystical type of energy like white people...


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        #18
        Originally posted by patfromlogan
        Go tell it to Liddell, punk.:p

        Okay, I'll see him tomorrow, would you like me to tell Jon to or just Chuck?

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          #19
          Omega, I am curious as to what specific style of Kempo that did not impress you. I'm not here to criticize, just to learn.
          Before I quasi answer let me get someting straight, I actually like Kempo but I find it humerous when they get all snooty about ther history. Pat, you're just perpetuating the attitude I'm referring to. As for the systems I don't like, it's all the instructor not the system.

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            #20
            Seriously Pat, I know Chuck personally, if you would like me to bring up the conversation to prove a point I will. He doesn't really get to passionate about that. As for Jon, he's a fun loving guy who also doesn't really get all upity about these types of discussion. Now, Jon's instructor, that's a different story. My friend actually trains along that system, I could bring him on and you could discuss it further.

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              #21
              Re: Re: Good Kempo History Site

              Originally posted by miguksaram
              How has it been discredited?
              I like Andrew's site, and I hate to plug my own site, but try the articles here on for size:

              http://home.comcast.net/~matthewabarnes/articles.html

              Matt

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                #22
                Andrew and Matt,

                What are your feelings towards Hanshi Juchnik and his claim as the inheritor of the system? What are your feelings towards Mitose's son and his claims. Have you studied with or talked to either of them?

                I am hoping to have some time to dive into both sites this weekend and study up on them. They both looked very interesting.
                Jeremy M. Talbott

                Originally posted by Phrost
                "Bullshido isn't just a place to hang out when you're browsing the net. We really are trying to accomplish something fucking extraordinary here that nobody's ever had the balls to do before."
                Originally posted by D.Murray
                "Which is better, to learn the truth, or to enjoy the illusion of being right when you are not?"
                Originally posted by hangooknamja88
                My definition of Ki is our energy. it's rather hard to explain it in words. It's not some mystical type of energy like white people...


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                  #23
                  Omega: "Pat, you're just perpetuating the attitude I'm referring to." WTF? and Huh? and so forth. Sheeeezzz:

                  !. Saying to tell it to Liddell was a joke as you COULD have told by that little smile face.
                  Go tell it to Liddell, punk.:p

                  See??

                  "Seriously Pat, I know Chuck personally, if you would like me to bring up the conversation to prove a point I will."


                  Gad Omega, these guys are my heroes. I can't imagine why I would want to offend them or get them confused with what you seem to be confused with what I was saying. I was saying that some Kempo people are defensive about their history and that is crapola. Only if they adhere to the Bodidarmar blessing Mitose who passed the holy relic of true kempo karmic truth on to Vallari, me, and Jamoke. I don't want to offend people like Jon and Liddell.

                  2. What do you mean that I am "just perpetuating the attitude?" Shit Omega, please read my posts, or read them several times if you are a little slow. I respect the art and also think that honest kempo people don't have any problem with the history; they know where it came from and respect the guys like Walter Godin and Adriano Emperado and Joe Holk who were REAL martial artists.

                  well, my dear wife says to get off the G.D. computer, so bowing to my better half, catch you latter...
                  "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez

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                    #24
                    I would be curious to hear the forum's thoughts on where United Studios of Self Defense stands in all of this. I am fairly new to Bullshido but I havent seen much on USSD, who teaches Shaolin Kempo. I would love your thoughts.

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                      #25
                      Omega, since you know Mr. John Hackleman and Mr. Chuck Liddell, you know that Hawaiian Kempo is good stuff. As for judging other Kempo stylist, you're absolutely correct in that there is some bad stuff out there.

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                        #26
                        Yeah Pat, I got the Joke part, I thought you would get the joke of the first post. My second post stated "seriously" just in case you weren't joking. I might be seeing Chuck Sunday, would you like his autograph?

                        Yeah Andrew, you're new here, normally I'm not this civil on this board but this is the more serious section. Whenever I here anybody say that Kempo, or karate doesn't work in MMA, I point them to The Pit.

                        I would be curious to hear the forum's thoughts on where United Studios of Self Defense stands in all of this. I am fairly new to Bullshido but I havent seen much on USSD, who teaches Shaolin Kempo. I would love your thoughts.

                        Don't go there. You're new to this site.

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                          #27
                          Let me add more...

                          When it comes to judging styles, schools and instructors, I hope nobody tries to do this based on just one class. Recently I had to attend a funeral out of state and the rest of my instructors were either injured or on maternity leave so I had to use an underbelt to run the class. Thankfully, everything went well. Then there was this other time when someone who trained in another art came by to watch and then left without saying goodbye (how rude!). A friend of his told me that I scared him and he thought I was too extreme. Trouble was, that was during a test and I often tone things down on a regular basis. So please, keep in mind that judging something in the martial arts based on an extremely short exposure is not doing the art or yourself any justice.

                          As for Hanshi Juchnik, I'll let Matt handle that one if he so desires. I admit that on many historical issues his knowledge exceeds mine. And yes, his website has a lot of interesting and controversial material. So take off your gloves and visit http://home.comcast.net/~matthewabarnes/articles.html

                          Andrew

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                            #28
                            Actually, and I could be wrong on this Andrew, but I believe that those statements are almost verbatum of what Al Tracey has been writing for a few years now.

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                              #29
                              Omega, I don't have enough knowledge to comment on that. If it wasn't for Mitose who knows what us Kempo/Kenpo/Kajukenbo folks would be doing. We owe him that much (if not more).

                              Also on behalf of me and my students, please send Professor John Hackleman our love and respect the next time you see him.

                              Andrew

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                                #30
                                Does he know you?

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