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    #31
    Wow!! Congrats Askari. This is great.
    You might want to check out the Anthony Robbins connection. Patenaude is, allegedly, a certified Anthony Robbins motivator. Robbins is into personal empowerment, firewalks, gettin-rich-schems, powersleep, and: selling vitamins etc, stuff that the Patenaudes are into as well. Robbins is basically part of a parasitic culture of "personal motivators" that somehow succeed in convincing CEOs that their employess need to take his workshops. My guess: the "little boy from Casselman" got sucked into this and makes his sifus sell Tony Robbins' vitamins. I'll try to find out if Robbins is also into sniffing dog shit.

    The picture of the FSD-gang is wonderfull!! What supreme irony: they probably didn't have a clue what this is gonna look like. The good, the bad and the ugly! Note that the two women are among the meanest looking, and father and sons are trying hard, but somehow they seem to be thinking: we are fakes! Brian Paquet looks like the Kung Fu-nazi. Only a few are actually smiling, perhaps these are the good guys who haven't realized that they are getting screwed by the master. By the way, Linda (is that her real name or is this just a Bruce LEE thing???) and Christine both have a black sash. Seems to be a total joke! I even heard that Christine was simply given her black sash by daddy. At the training camp I attended, all the sifus/instructors participated, except her. She was there but, like her mother, seemed to be only in charge of the food and water part.

    I also heard the rumors about JP's criminal record. Wasn't there somebody from the West Coast early on in the FSD forum thread mentioning this? Well, shit always ends up floating on the surface. So, we'll find out eventually.
    Keep on trucking!

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      #32
      In addition to the Anthony Robbins style business practices it seems that movie-making is also on Patenaude's plate.

      Check out this little gem that has Jacques Patenaude and Martin Patenaude listed as Executive Producers.

      http://www.painkiller-movie.com/

      From the production quality and look of the actors this looks like it will be one bad film.

      His production company is Red Dragon Films and the link takes you to the same page as fangshendo.com, learnkung-fu.com and his other URLs.

      I wonder if Patenaude is offering 'special' students an opportunity to 'invest' in this blockbuster?

      The female lead, Anna Jaeger, looks hot. Too bad it appears she is knocked off early in the film (hence the 'revenge' plot).

      nvrBit

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        #33
        Martial arts, Motivation Seminars and Movies

        Wow, they dont have a Kung Fu Schools they have an industry...:)

        I think Pain Killer is a a good name from the looks of it as it is not so much a title as a suggestion to take some numbing medication (perhaps morphine?) to sit through this low budget no plot puppy.

        Perhaps Brain Killer would be a good alternative as I am sure it will assualt a few brain cells.

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          #34
          Red Dragon films, huh? There is a member named Red Dragon who has not posted yet, but lurks on the FSD threads. Could it be JP himself?

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            #35
            Well I suppose he's entitled to hang around and listen, but like a small child at the grown up table perhaps he'd be wiser to wait until spoken to.

            I've tried to illicit an invite to train out of Dictionary69 but perhaps I'll address the Great Red Dragon...

            Oh, Sifu P would it be cool if I dropped in on a class here and there, you know just to get a feel for it?

            TKD

            THIS IS NOT AN EXIT


            "Ladies and gentlemen, the pilot has instructed everyone to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up." Henry Rollins

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              #36
              red-dragon here!

              Hi everyone, sorry this is not "Grandmaster Sijo Jacko, 10th Dan of someone elses system which I am now calling my own". I am however a former FSD, aka Wing Chun Do, aka, Century 2000, aka Modern Wing Chun student who has taken a great interest in this thread. The name red-dragon is purely coincidental.

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                #37
                Hi Red-Dragon,

                Welcome to the threads. What is Century 2000?
                "Sifu, I"m niether - I'm a fire dragon so don't fuck with me!"

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Askari
                  Hi Red-Dragon,

                  Welcome to the threads. What is Century 2000?
                  Isn't that a real estate company?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Cdnronin
                    Isn't that a real estate company?
                    That would be Century 21 ...


                    Century 2000 would be ... umm well the 1900's . How ground breaking ... * yawns *

                    *edit *

                    But lets not derail this awesome thread with more _ing _un Bullshit please ....

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                      #40
                      Century 2000 Kung Fu was the name they used for a short while in the 90's.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by red-dragon
                        Hi everyone, sorry this is not "Grandmaster Sijo Jacko, 10th Dan of someone elses system which I am now calling my own". I am however a former FSD, aka Wing Chun Do, aka, Century 2000, aka Modern Wing Chun student who has taken a great interest in this thread. The name red-dragon is purely coincidental.
                        Were you a student through the various phases, culminating in FSD, and if so can you tell us about what changes were made for the style to become FSD?

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                          #42
                          Yes I was a student beginning in the early 90's to the present name today, FSD. The style or curriculum did not change just the names of techniques and the elimination of some traditional wing chun forms ie; sil lim tao to give it a more modernized look.

                          All you need to do is to purchase James Demile's Wing Chun Do books to see word for word what FSD really is.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by red-dragon
                            Yes I was a student beginning in the early 90's to the present name today, FSD. The style or curriculum did not change just the names of techniques and the elimination of some traditional wing chun forms ie; sil lim tao to give it a more modernized look.

                            All you need to do is to purchase James Demile's Wing Chun Do books to see word for word what FSD really is.
                            So the multiple black belts in unnamed arts that Sijo got haven't added anything to the development of FSD? I can understand a parting of the ways between Patenaude and Demile, but the art remains the same?

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                              #44
                              Red Dragon. I'm truly sorry for calling you JP. If you cannot forgive me I'll understand.

                              Does anyone know of any additions that JP has given to WCD to merrit the change to MWC, C-2000, FSD, or other?

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                                #45
                                all I can tell you is that the changes that I have witnessed during my time in FSD are primarly on the techniques section. They eliminated sil lim tao for exemple. The reasons of theses changes remain obscur... Did they wanted to cut the links with their Wing Chun heritage? Or was it to make the form instruction latter in the learning processus? After all they advertise themselves as a form free style...

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