Zombie Apocolapse?

[JudOWNED]

[Vorpal]

Edited because I thought of something better. Get back to you tonight, Vorp.

Don't bother.

[JRT6]

Lets just say I buy smokeless powder in bulk. For any ATF types reading this my stuff is all theoretical :biggrin:

Reminds me of a real sicko I used to work with years ago. When the swat team hit his house they found him hiding in the bathtub with numerous military explosive devices at hand. It was never said where he got the stuff.

[Jim_Jude]

I live in the semi-country so my zombie protection starts with home made claymores and some judicious use of the natural terrain on my property.

Homemade claymores? What are you using as your primary? Unless y'all have access to RDX explosives in the cuntree...

[Jim_Jude]

I used to shoot plenty, but it was more in the paper silhouette and clay disk department. Never had a spare pig to test my calibers on unfortunately.

Now that I have a verdict on .22, I shall go forth and build my zombie pistol as soon as I get back to the US in that caliber.

Oh, okay. Sorry. :icon_wink

But hey, accuracy is accuracy. I shoot paper and clay a lot more than meat, but real life use can't be beat. When you get back, go huntin'!

[Jim_Jude]

lol. Guys, calm down.

Good argument, but isn't the point of each weapon to kill a zombie(in this situation)?

I've fired a Kimber 1911, I loved it. I've fired a Para hi cap 1911, it was ok. I've fired a Glock, I loved it too.

As for the conceal carry with the hammer back, why should it matter? If nobody can see it than as far as I'm concerned it isn't even there.

It's all about your preference.

(standard size)Glocks carry more rounds than a 7+1 1911 but the 1911 will probably be a little bit easier to conceal than a standard size Glock.

You both win. The zombies lose.

Are we concealing our weapons from Zeds? Who are we concealing our weapons from? I don't get it.

[Jim_Jude]

I used to shoot plenty, but it was more in the paper silhouette and clay disk department. Never had a spare pig to test my calibers on unfortunately.

Now that I have a verdict on .22, I shall go forth and build my zombie pistol as soon as I get back to the US in that caliber.

Word. Man, you just can't have enough .22 for the SHTF scenario. Seriously, regardless of the situation, I think that .22 caliber ANYTHING will keep folks alive longer than anything else. You can stock THOUSANDS of rounds for almost nothing when compared to other ammo.
Double tap a Zed in the head with hi velocity .22, you'll get results!

[JudOWNED]

For the Zombie thing, I'm with Jim. FOr most Z's a .22 to the dome is going to work just fine.

[JudOWNED]

Edited because I thought of something better. Get back to you tonight, Vorp.

[Sealknife]

[quote=KO'd N DOA]

As for the conceal carry with the hammer back, why should it matter? If nobody can see it than as far as I'm concerned it isn't even there.

It's all about your preference.

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WRONG: Every self respecting Zombie want an honorable dispatch to Zombie hell, therefore it matters most of all to them!!! It's all about the Zombie preference.

Agreed. Break out the dueling pistols!

[KO'd N DOA]

[quote=Sealknife]

As for the conceal carry with the hammer back, why should it matter? If nobody can see it than as far as I'm concerned it isn't even there.

It's all about your preference.

quote]

WRONG: Every self respecting Zombie want an honorable dispatch to Zombie hell, therefore it matters most of all to them!!! It's all about the Zombie preference.

[Sealknife]

lol. Guys, calm down.

Good argument, but isn't the point of each weapon to kill a zombie(in this situation)?

I've fired a Kimber 1911, I loved it. I've fired a Para hi cap 1911, it was ok. I've fired a Glock, I loved it too.

As for the conceal carry with the hammer back, why should it matter? If nobody can see it than as far as I'm concerned it isn't even there.

It's all about your preference.

(standard size)Glocks carry more rounds than a 7+1 1911 but the 1911 will probably be a little bit easier to conceal than a standard size Glock.

You both win. The zombies lose.

[BadUglyMagic]

... Um, yeah. And I believed you missed his point and explained why.

and...

Nobody answered my question. Define when a 1911 ceases to be a 1911. My 1911 exp comes from shooting a customized (trigger pull) colt 1911. To my mind, especially when you start changing how the pistol actually mechanially functions (eg SAO to double action), that's no longer a "true" 1911.


You don't think there is inherently more risk in carrying a pistol where the hammer is raised and ready to fall on an inline firing pin? You don't think modern guns where the firing pin is kept off line until ready to fire and the hammer is either down, or there is no real "hammer" is safer? You don't think that modern improvements like keeping the firing pin off line were done because they are safer and the fact that no modern gun design uses a cocked and lock platform for carry should tell you something?

Truthfully, I don't think you do. And that puzzles me.

Actually your question form Post #113,"At what point does it cease to be a 1911 and become a modern gun BASED ON a 1911 design?"

The real question is does it kill zombies better than a 9mm or 40 cal.

[Vorpal]

You don't think there is inherently more risk in carrying a pistol where the hammer is raised and ready to fall on an inline firing pin? You don't think modern guns where the firing pin is kept off line until ready to fire and the hammer is either down, or there is no real "hammer" is safer? You don't think that modern improvements like keeping the firing pin off line were done because they are safer and the fact that no modern gun design uses a cocked and lock platform for carry should tell you something?

Truthfully, I don't think you do. And that puzzles me.

You're puzzled because you are uneducated about the subject you're espousing on. You have an emotional reaction to seeing a hammer back, but don't understand the actual mechanics involved with either firearm. Wow, you shot one 1911 and now you're an expert? Listen, just to qualify myself a bit, I worked in the firearms industry for years (Navy Arms Company, Ridgefield, NJ), I have carried firearms professionally since 1986. I'm currently a federal firearms instructor (U.S. Marshals Service).

Please tell me where the firing pin goes in a Glock when it is "off line"? You have no idea what you're talking about. The firing pin is blocked from firing until the trigger is pulled. (it never goes"off line") Most 1911s post series 70 have the same feature. (If you don't know what I mean when I say Series 70, stop reading and choke yourself).

The fact is the reason "cocked and locked" has fallen to the wayside in favor of striker fired systems is exactly because people have a negative reaction to seeing a hammer back, but not being able to see a firing pin under tension (as it is in the Glock*) sets their mind at ease. Ignorance is bliss.

Please, stop pontificating about firearms. Please.






*Partially. Pulling the trigger on the Glock pulls the striker back under full tension before firing. This feature enables it to be designated as a "double action" firearm by the BATF

[JRT6]

How many people can really out shoot the accuracy of their gun?