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    Originally posted by mrm1775
    Not to be a dick, but that's a PTR-91, not a FAL. Also a fine battle rifle.
    Good catch.

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      Originally posted by PeopleSoft
      Are you serious? He's not going to ban semis. Gun control isn't even one of his priorities.
      ***TEMP BAN FOR ABJECT IGNORANCE***
      "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
      ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

      "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
      ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

      "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
      ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney

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        Originally posted by Jim_Jude
        ***TEMP BAN FOR ABJECT IGNORANCE***
        That seems like a dangerous approach for you to take.

        Obama has no real interest in your guns. In a perfect world, he probably wishes you didn't have them, but mostly he hates the political blowback that comes with the issue. He will fight (behind the scenes) within his own party to keep gun control off the agenda. But he won't expend a huge amount of political capital doing it, and if it comes to an open vote, he will support it because he has to.

        If you don't understand that, you know shit about politics.

        You should be rooting for Obama to run strong, because if he gets weak, DiFi and the other true believers might very well push this issue.

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          I say make friends with gunsmiths and machinists, and fuck what the government says you can own.

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            Originally posted by Aging Hippie Liberal Douche
            You should be rooting for Obama to run strong, because if he gets weak, DiFi and the other true believers might very well push this issue.
            That sounds like one of those bracelets: OBAMA RUN STRONG!!!! We can get some brown ones made. I'd buy a few.
            "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
            ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

            "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
            ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

            "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
            ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney

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              Originally posted by Aging Hippie Liberal Douche
              That seems like a dangerous approach for you to take.

              Obama has no real interest in your guns. In a perfect world, he probably wishes you didn't have them, but mostly he hates the political blowback that comes with the issue. He will fight (behind the scenes) within his own party to keep gun control off the agenda. But he won't expend a huge amount of political capital doing it, and if it comes to an open vote, he will support it because he has to.

              If you don't understand that, you know shit about politics.

              You should be rooting for Obama to run strong, because if he gets weak, DiFi and the other true believers might very well push this issue.
              I really hope, for everyone's sakes, that this is the case. The fanatics are already riled up at just the prospect (go checkout arfcom sometime), if a black, Democrat actually tried something like that, it's extremely likely we'd have another OKC incident.

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                Originally posted by Aging Hippie Liberal Douche
                That seems like a dangerous approach for you to take.

                Obama has no real interest in your guns. In a perfect world, he probably wishes you didn't have them, but mostly he hates the political blowback that comes with the issue. He will fight (behind the scenes) within his own party to keep gun control off the agenda. But he won't expend a huge amount of political capital doing it, and if it comes to an open vote, he will support it because he has to.

                If you don't understand that, you know shit about politics.
                ... and yet his entire past voting record, PRIOR TO HIS RUNNING FOR PREZ, goes contrary to your "opinion" (that's all it is, really).

                Good luck with that.
                "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
                ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

                "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
                ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

                "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
                ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney

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                  Originally posted by Phrost
                  I really hope, for everyone's sakes, that this is the case. The fanatics are already riled up at just the prospect (go checkout arfcom sometime), if a black, Democrat actually tried something like that, it's extremely likely we'd have another OKC incident.
                  Why not another JFK incident???
                  "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
                  ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

                  "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
                  ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

                  "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
                  ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney

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                    The Secret Service are good at their jobs and there's no way the first black president would be riding in a drop top Lincoln.

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                      Originally posted by Phrost
                      The Secret Service are good at their jobs and there's no way the first black president would be riding in a drop top Lincoln.
                      Actually, we were talking about it the other day, & I figured that the first thing Obama would do when he found out he won would be to call the Pope for his pope-mobile dealer's ph#
                      "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
                      ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

                      "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
                      ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

                      "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
                      ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney

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                        Originally posted by Phrost
                        The Secret Service are good at their jobs...
                        As long as they're sufficiently motivated, right?
                        "Judo is a study of techniques with which you may kill if you wish to kill, injure if you wish to injure, subdue if you wish to subdue, and, when attacked, defend yourself" - Jigoro Kano (1889)
                        ***Was this quote "taken out of context"?***

                        "The judoist has no time to allow himself a margin for error, especially in a situation upon which his or another person's very life depends...."
                        ~ The Secret of Judo (Jiichi Watanabe & Lindy Avakian), p.19

                        "Hope is not a method... nor is enthusiasm."
                        ~ Brigadier General Gordon Toney

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                          Originally posted by Jim_Jude
                          ... and yet his entire past voting record, PRIOR TO HIS RUNNING FOR PREZ, goes contrary to your "opinion" (that's all it is, really).

                          Good luck with that.
                          First off, his voting history doesn't include anything really on point either before or after he started running for president. That said, he is in favor of an assault weapons ban. No question about it. But the question isn't whether he is in favor of something enough to vote for it. It's whether he is in favor of it enough to push for it. Exactly how many gun control laws has Obama authored or sponsored? Answer 0. He is not a true believer on the topic. So he be guided by politics rather than policy, and as a post DLC centrist, he knows that the politics of gun control hurt democrats more than they help.

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                            By the way, from a purely play the odds standpoint. If you were looking to bet on the passage of an AWB, I would expect it at the beginning of a second term (maybe second year) if the dems still have strong majorities in congress. That will be when congresscritters will be looking to make waves and get noticed for the following presidential race, and Obama won't be in a position to stop them.

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                              Originally posted by Aging Hippie Liberal Douche
                              By the way, from a purely play the odds standpoint. If you were looking to bet on the passage of an AWB, I would expect it at the beginning of a second term (maybe second year) if the dems still have strong majorities in congress. That will be when congresscritters will be looking to make waves and get noticed for the following presidential race, and Obama won't be in a position to stop them.

                              I think that's a possibility. I think BO would be more than happy to take away all our babies. But he may hold off on the gun grabbing until term two. I hope so. By then, I'll have enough hardware to take over a small country.

                              On the subject of assassination - it ain't happening. I was reading an article the other day about the security that's already in place. The secret service is fully aware of the threat, and they're not about to have egg on their face. They've already turned his neighborhood into a fucking death zone for anybody who even farts in BO's general direction.

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                                What do you guys think of an Aramalite M15 I was looking into getting one?

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