Bullshido in the marines?

[colonelpong2]

Dude, the military is not immune from bullshit ideas of grandeur .

Im just going to take this piece of that quote out of context here. :jerkit2yf

[Carpe Noctem]

I think you'd better clarify that comment.

[milwaukee cop]

I respect any young person that decides to serve thier counrty in our Armed forces.
Any person in America that says todays Youth lack honor, dedication, and comitment, need to attend any of the boot camp graduations of any the Armed forces, and they will see that the old "can do" spirit is still alive.
I just wish we would use more wisdom in deploying our Military.

[mrblackmagic]

I'd have thought "guns" would have made up for this fault.

[halfcut]

haha i'm good with english, and thats about it.

I'm not feeling army...something tells me i'll get my ass shipped to iraq and be there for a while. Marines are only there for 7 months...

I don't know, what is an H2H instructor?

I work with a few former Marines and on a whole it seems that they really enjoyed their time in. If I was joining the service all over again I probably would of considered the Marine Corp a little more. If you do go into intelligence keep in mind that the Marine Corp won't guarantee you a specific field of it, your specialization is determined by your unit. That isn't really a bad thing though. Marines get to travel a bit more as well. Finally another thing is that with the Marine Corp you will probably be stationed pretty close to a beach.

[CannibalCrowley]

And i'm too...smart for infantry, as the recruiter put it (no offense to any infantry guys in here...but the recruiter said i got some ridiculously high score on some ridiculous test or something, and that they wouldn't put me in infantry)

This seals it, the recruiter in question is a lying douche (unfortunately that's par for the course). There's no such thing as a max ASVAB score for Marine infantry.

[AlphaFoxtrot51]

This seals it, the recruiter in question is a lying douche (unfortunately that's par for the course). There's no such thing as a max ASVAB score for Marine infantry.

To his defense, I scored a 99 on my ASVAB and when I said "Infantry" to the recruiter, I thought his eyes were going to bulge out of his head. He tried to convince me to do everything else, but the Infantry.

[pittfrog]

I know you're young and you feel directionless, but for God's sake, pick a job before you sign any military contract. Pick something that will help you if you decide eventually (as many do) that the military is not going to be your life. Make sure that whatever you pick is explicitly written into your enlistment contract. This means that if you think you are going to be a Marine Corps Basket weaver, somewhere in your enlistment contract you should see Basket Weaver training directly referenced and promised. People who think they're going to pick a specialty after they're done with basic end up doing the shittiest jobs, with precious little opportunity for career exploration and training (at least in the Navy). Also, once you're through with basic, whether or not you're sent to school for a specialty you decide you like is up to your chain of command, while stuff in your contract *must* be given to you.

If I were joining today, and I had scored very well on my ASVAB, I would consider taking language training as some of the above posters have suggested. As for language, I'd pick either Arabic, or Chinese, both for use in and eventually out of the service. Either language will greatly increase your eventual employability throughout the next decades.

Also, consider being a reservist. You don't know what you want to do, and yet you're considering making a commitment involving years of your life? Many people have made the same choice, and have regretted it and had to live for years with the consequences of signing that enlistment contract. If you're a reservist, if you decide you hate the military, you won't have to live with it for very much of the year.

Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the military, I joined as a reservist myself when I was young, and it was fun and good for me. I got money for college out of it, went to some cool places, and made good friends. The military *can* be great.

[pittfrog]

This seals it, the recruiter in question is a lying douche (unfortunately that's par for the course). There's no such thing as a max ASVAB score for Marine infantry.

There's no such thing as an ASVAB too high for the infantry, but it's certainly possible that he might think that someone like the OP might not be happy in the infantry. Instead of immediately jumping to the conclusion that the recruiter is a douchebag, you might consider the possibility that he's trying, at least a little, to look out for the guy.

[7thSamurai]

I'd have thought weapons would have made up for this fault.

fixed.

Rifles are weapons, not guns in the Corps.

[halfcut]

If I were joining today, and I had scored very well on my ASVAB, I would consider taking language training as some of the above posters have suggested. As for language, I'd pick either Arabic, or Chinese, both for use in and eventually out of the service. Either language will greatly increase your eventual employability throughout the next decades.

You can get linguist in your contract, but the specific language you learn will be determined by the needs of your branch of service.

[Cullion]

it just sort of made me question everything, you know? I mean, my dad was a marine, i've known alot of marines, and i'm not saying this guy was a pussy or anything like that, but i tend to instantly dislike anyone who believes in and spews such bullshit.

It's perfectly possible to be tough and still not know what the fuck you're talking about.

The military is all about long-distance stamina, climbing over stuff, firearms, maps, radios etc..

All the old hand-to-hand stuff (before the recent innovation based on live training methods, MMA high-percentage techniques) was, as far as I can tell, a very small part of anybody's training and seemed to mostly be about making sure people at least died bravely trying some low-percentage technique than being bayonetted through the chest or 'tween shoulder blades
as they tried to raise their arms or turn and run for their lives.

[SuperGuido]

You will not be a MCMAP Instructor within your first term of duty.

You will not. It won't happen.

If the Marine Recruiter tells you otherwise...he's lying.

To be a MCMAP "Instructor" in any full-time capacity, you would need to be at least a Sergeant, stationed in TBS, pass all the rank/time requirements for MCMAP Instructor Trainer, and accepted into a highly impacted, highly wanted and extremely small section of the Marine Corps.

This, of course, assumes your CO would be willing to let you go...which he probably wouldn't.

Now, most platoons will send you to "Green Belt" MCMAP, which will let you lead MCMAP PT for your unit and rank others up to Grey. This, of course, would be extremely rare and secondary to your primary job.

[AlphaFoxtrot51]

You will not be a MCMAP Instructor within your first term of duty.

You will not. It won't happen.

If the Marine Recruiter tells you otherwise...he's lying.

To be a MCMAP "Instructor" in any full-time capacity, you would need to be at least a Sergeant, stationed in TBS, pass all the rank/time requirements for MCMAP Instructor Trainer, and accepted into a highly impacted, highly wanted and extremely small section of the Marine Corps.

This, of course, assumes your CO would be willing to let you go...which he probably wouldn't.

Now, most platoons will send you to "Green Belt" MCMAP, which will let you lead MCMAP PT for your unit and rank others up to Grey. This, of course, would be extremely rare and secondary to your primary job.

Not to mention a huge waste of time...

[3moose1]

You will not be a MCMAP Instructor within your first term of duty.

You will not. It won't happen.

If the Marine Recruiter tells you otherwise...he's lying.

To be a MCMAP "Instructor" in any full-time capacity, you would need to be at least a Sergeant, stationed in TBS, pass all the rank/time requirements for MCMAP Instructor Trainer, and accepted into a highly impacted, highly wanted and extremely small section of the Marine Corps.

This, of course, assumes your CO would be willing to let you go...which he probably wouldn't.

Now, most platoons will send you to "Green Belt" MCMAP, which will let you lead MCMAP PT for your unit and rank others up to Grey. This, of course, would be extremely rare and secondary to your primary job.

That is basically what my recruiter told me