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    So it's 2019 and apparently to earn minimum wage full time in this economy I have to baby sit a loaded gun for 10 hours a night.
    My "budget" (read a week's worth of cash tips) forced me to make at least one of three compromises when picking a handgun.
    A) Single stack autos
    B) Antique terror weapons
    C) Massive bricks.
    I said "fuggit" and went for all three!
    Anybody else here like to 1911? Let's see your trench brooms!

    #2
    I love 1911s. But I can’t imagine why anyone would choose one to use as anything other than a toy or competition gun. The most practical options are actually the more cost effective options.

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      #3
      My pistol trainer told me that the average gun fight takes place within 3 yards, lasts 3 seconds and 3 shots are fired (rule of threes)

      Is this so? and if it is does the choice of pistol really matter that much?

      Something small, and easy to deploy would seem the best choice

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        #4
        Originally posted by Mr. Machette View Post
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        So it's 2019 and apparently to earn minimum wage full time in this economy I have to baby sit a loaded gun for 10 hours a night.
        My "budget" (read a week's worth of cash tips) forced me to make at least one of three compromises when picking a handgun.
        A) Single stack autos
        B) Antique terror weapons
        C) Massive bricks.
        I said "fuggit" and went for all three!
        Anybody else here like to 1911? Let's see your trench brooms!
        Trench Broom is a tommy gun or a pump shotgun , winchester 1897 specifically.


        I like rock island 1911s. Dollar for dollar they seem to be the best and have all standard size parts. Since parts are standard they can be slicked up with night hawk,wilson and ed brown parts.

        I have a single stack chrome .45 w/ short rail, single stack 9mm, and a 2011 double stack full rail .45.

        My next 1911 will be a sti spartan. I didn't buy one while they were in production so it will have to be used but its rock island frame with sti internals put together by STI gun smiths. If i get a full custom gun it will be an STI.
        Last edited by Raycetpfl; 2/17/2019 12:58pm, .
        The Caucasian always has stronger strength and when comes to grappling, Caucasians mostly win easily. I do know grappling and if I used it on Asians my size, it works. - Kung Fu dude that got waxed at OneFc try out.

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          #5
          Originally posted by doofaloofa View Post
          My pistol trainer told me that the average gun fight takes place within 3 yards, lasts 3 seconds and 3 shots are fired (rule of threes)

          Is this so? and if it is does the choice of pistol really matter that much?

          Something small, and easy to deploy would seem the best choice
          Something you enjoy shooting so you practice with it a lot would make sense.

          I like 1911's and Cz's so thats what use as a ccw.

          I will likely never get into a gun fight. My favorite thing about carrying my favorite pistols is having them on me to stop by the range to shoot on a whim.
          The Caucasian always has stronger strength and when comes to grappling, Caucasians mostly win easily. I do know grappling and if I used it on Asians my size, it works. - Kung Fu dude that got waxed at OneFc try out.

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            #6
            Originally posted by doofaloofa View Post
            My pistol trainer told me that the average gun fight takes place within 3 yards, lasts 3 seconds and 3 shots are fired (rule of threes)

            Is this so? and if it is does the choice of pistol really matter that much?

            Something small, and easy to deploy would seem the best choice
            Of course it matters. Nobody who has a clue recommends 1911s for when your life depends on it. They’re obsolete. Even the best of them are less reliable than modern striker fired pistols. That doesn’t mean they aren’t going to work when you need them necessarily. But statistically they’re going to fail much more often. And that’s before you even begin considering the limited ammo capacity.

            I’m a 1911 fanboy. I think they’re cool as fuck. Probably my favorite pistol to shoot. I own more than one. I’ve built and rebuilt 1911s. They’re great. But they’re still obsolete as far as combat pistols go.

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              #7
              Shut the fuck up when men are talking

              Originally posted by Devil View Post
              Of course it matters. Nobody who has a clue recommends 1911s for when your life depends on it. They’re obsolete. Even the best of them are less reliable than modern striker fired pistols. That doesn’t mean they aren’t going to work when you need them necessarily. But statistically they’re going to fail much more often. And that’s before you even begin considering the limited ammo capacity.

              I’m a 1911 fanboy. I think they’re cool as fuck. Probably my favorite pistol to shoot. I own more than one. I’ve built and rebuilt 1911s. They’re great. But they’re still obsolete as far as combat pistols go.
              First off, asshole. You don't know what my budget was, weren't at the "Fishing pro shop" with me and don't know what my options were.
              Of course I wanted a modern polymer frame double stack in a caliber that wouldn't hurt even YOUR dainty wrists but those come in at close to $700 without accessories.
              No to mention if you find one in .45 acp the capacity is often exactly the same as a 10 round mag in a 1911.
              Nobody "recommend it" over anything other than it's price competitors on the shelf which were Hi-points, a CZ 82 that looked like it had been a neck beard's love pillow and the Ruger LC9. I'm sure you're familiar with the Ruger. There's probably one hidden in your anus right now.
              Anyway: taking into consideration the fact that if this thing comes out for business it will be at spitting distance and I could afford​ all the after market xtexndo-mags, accessories and ammo I wanted with the money I saved it was too good to pass up.
              If it's "smooth enough for competition" then it's reliable enough to blast a man in the duodenum at point blank.
              Fucking thing saw action in two world wars, Korea and Vietnam. Is still in use by people who kill for a living and have the option of equipping one.
              I'm 100% certain that when pressed into service under the right conditions it will perform as advertised.
              You know all of that and are still being a little bitch. Stop being such a sandy cunt, Devil. You're a grown man and it's embarrassing to watch.
              Last edited by Mr. Machette; 2/17/2019 6:32pm, .

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                #8
                Originally posted by Raycetpfl View Post
                I like rock island 1911s. Dollar for dollar they seem to be the best and have all standard size parts. Since parts are standard they can be slicked up with night hawk,wilson and ed brown parts.
                That's what we're running with. "Charles Dally" (Armscor / Rrock Island) all slicked up with custom springs.
                It is a joy to handle.
                Kind of sad that it's an obligatory gun and not a fun one.
                I lament being more hobbiest than gold bricker.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Mr. Machette View Post
                  That's what we're running with. "Charles Dally" (Armscor / Rrock Island) all slicked up with custom springs.
                  It is a joy to handle.
                  Kind of sad that it's an obligatory gun and not a fun one.
                  I lament being more hobbiest than gold bricker.
                  $700?

                  No way...

                  Not that I object to your choice...
                  Falling for Judo since 1980

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by BKR View Post
                    $700?

                    No way...

                    Not that I object to your choice...
                    $245. ��
                    I don't even know if it was $700 new! Lol
                    $500-$700 for any of the Glock, CZ or S&W polymer frames than any self respecting shooter would want to own.
                    Think I dialed in on a CZ for @ $650 that I'll go back for when I have more time to save and plan.
                    The Chucky Dales' was only $245 out the door though. I walked out with a cleaning kit, holster, 100 rounds of ball, 50 of JHP, two stock mags and an extra 10 round mag for less than the cheapest Glock in the store!

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                      #11
                      If you don't have a meaningful chance of getting into a gunfight any working firearm will do. Who made that particular piece?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mr. Machette View Post
                        First off, asshole. You don't know what my budget was, weren't at the "Fishing pro shop" with me and don't know what my options were.
                        Of course I wanted a modern polymer frame double stack in a caliber that wouldn't hurt even YOUR dainty wrists but those come in at close to $700 without accessories.
                        No to mention if you find one in .45 acp the capacity is often exactly the same as a 10 round mag in a 1911.
                        Nobody "recommend it" over anything other than it's price competitors on the shelf which were Hi-points, a CZ 82 that looked like it had been a neck beard's love pillow and the Ruger LC9. I'm sure you're familiar with the Ruger. There's probably one hidden in your anus right now.
                        Anyway: taking into consideration the fact that if this thing comes out for business it will be at spitting distance and I could afford​ all the after market xtexndo-mags, accessories and ammo I wanted with the money I saved it was too good to pass up.
                        If it's "smooth enough for competition" then it's reliable enough to blast a man in the duodenum at point blank.
                        Fucking thing saw action in two world wars, Korea and Vietnam. Is still in use by people who kill for a living and have the option of equipping one.
                        I'm 100% certain that when pressed into service under the right conditions it will perform as advertised.
                        You know all of that and are still being a little bitch. Stop being such a sandy cunt, Devil. You're a grown man and it's embarrassing to watch.

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                          #13
                          You son of a bitch! Fine! I can't really argue with that...

                          It's the finest machine I could afford at the time and it will do exactly what I need until I can move into the 21st century.

                          Pretty sure I acknowledged the obsolescence in my OP.

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                            #14
                            Agreed for battle scenarios or regular professional gun fighting away from the civilized world. For competition,state side work or ccw would you object to their use if it was properly maintained?

                            I wouldn't wanna take one to a sandbox if i didn't have to. They love oil. Sand loves sticking in oil.
                            The Caucasian always has stronger strength and when comes to grappling, Caucasians mostly win easily. I do know grappling and if I used it on Asians my size, it works. - Kung Fu dude that got waxed at OneFc try out.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Sam Browning View Post
                              If you don't have a meaningful chance of getting into a gunfight any working firearm will do. Who made that particular piece?
                              Armscor (Charles Dally)
                              Regrettably I have a fair chance of having to use it in self defense.
                              Not ideal but better than prayers and supplication.

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