Question about Gracie Combatives...

[Jim_Jude]

If I'm not an LEO and am no longer active duty Military, is it possible to even learn the Gracie Combatives system? Does anyone know where I can get info on it? Thanks.

EDIT: Is anyone familiar with the system? Thanks.

[UpaLumpa]

Why would you want to?
Take bjj or join an mma gym and payless while learning more.

[Kentucky Fried Chokin]

I'm sure the Gracies will sell you some great DVDs in the subject.

[lionknight]

Gracie Combatives system < a decent BJJ and / or MMA program; hell in some cases even a below average BJJ and / or MMA program.

[CoffeeFan]

http://www.gracieacademy.com/gracie_combatives.html

According to the FAQ:

Any active or reserve military personnel are eligible to participate in the Gracie CombativesTM course. Proof of current military status is required.

So you may not be eligable, but your probably better off just taking BJJ or GJJ anyway.

I have a question: it says after completing the course you get certified to teach it for 6 months. Anyone know how long it takes to complete the course?

[UpaLumpa]

They've got one that's not just military, anyone can do it and get a "blue belt".

[lionknight]

http://www.gracieacademy.com/gracie_combatives.html

According to the FAQ:



So you may not be eligable, but your probably better off just taking BJJ or GJJ anyway.

I have a question: it says after completing the course you get certified to teach it for 6 months. Anyone know how long it takes to complete the course?

From elsewhere on the site you posted (edited in the whole thing):

Step 1: Learn the Techniques
The 36 Gracie Combatives techniques have been strategically divided into 23 one hour classes so that you can complete the course at your own pace. Each lesson is taught using unique Gracie Teaching Methods so that no previous experience is required to participate in any of the 23 lessons. As a result,you can complete them in any order. Upon enrolling, you will be issued a Combatives Card on which all your progress will be tracked and each month you will receive a Combatives Calendar that depicts which techniques will be taught in each lesson throughout the entire month.

Step 2: Develop Your Reflexes
Once you complete each of the 23 Gracie Combatives lessons two times, you will qualify to participate in the Reflex Development Classes. In these classes you will learn to execute all 36 techniques in every possible combination by conducting carefully scripted Fight Simulation Drills.promotion to Gracie Jiu-Jitsu Blue Belt!

Now that is listed as the Gracie Combatives which I'm assumeing is the same for the military version. So it seems like if you are really good then 36 hours x 3 = 108 hours to get a blue belt.

So if you train 2 hours a day 3 days a week = A blue belt in about 18 weeks or 4.5 months.

[Diesel_tke]

What is your reason? You just want a Gracie Certificate or you want to learn the techniques? Gracie Combatives = Modern Army Combatives = Blue Belt. Go to any BJJ school and learn the same thing.

[Jim_Jude]

What is your reason? You just want a Gracie Certificate or you want to learn the techniques? Gracie Combatives = Modern Army Combatives = Blue Belt. Go to any BJJ school and learn the same thing.

I practice a few different arts & would like to add some of the more effective, concentrated BJJ stuff to my grab bag. If I could do it in a seminar format, such as it looks like the Gracie Combatives program is presented in, that would be nice, since there is no BJJ close to me (Victorville, CA).

I don't really care about the "Blue Belt". It's nice, good for holding the gi closed, not much else.

[lionknight]

I practice a few different arts & would like to add some of the more effective, concentrated BJJ stuff to my grab bag. If I could do it in a seminar format, such as it looks like the Gracie Combatives program is presented in, that would be nice, since there is no BJJ close to me (Victorville, CA).

I don't really care about the "Blue Belt". It's nice, good for holding the gi closed, not much else.

Google shows at least a couple places near you. You sure theirs NO bjj? ...or just none you want to attend?

[Jim_Jude]

Google shows at least a couple places near you. You sure theirs NO bjj? ...or just none you want to attend?

Well, I may have to look again, BJJ places have a tendency to "come and go" around here. My friend that trains at the Gene Lebell affiliate up here said there weren't any active school close. I'll check again, thanks.

[Diesel_tke]

I have a law enforcement friend that went to that seminar. All you get is certified to teach Combatives techniques. Which is cool and all but really. It is basic. I mean really basic. He could demonstrate the techniques, but when rolling he was still green. It is actually a little embarrassing because when you teaching certain BJJ techniques, you like to get on the mat and show them. It sux when the people you try to demonstrate on are more knowledgeable than you are. That usually means you shouldn't be teaching.

All I really saying is that the seminar style is a good way to get those techniques from the source. But BJJ isn't a mystery, everyone has the techniques now. You just need to use them, drill them, and then when you think you know them, drill them some more.

So what are you planning to do? Go to the seminar, then come back and roll with friends, or other training parters. That is what my Law Enforcement friend did. He is starting to get pretty decent. It is hard for him though, because he has no one to ask questions too. But he is getting the reps in.

[1point2]

Does the combatives course talk at all about weapons retention, or downsides to groundfighting as a LEO/military?

Take my question with a grain of salt--I think learning grappling is absolutely essential for LEOs and military.

[Jim_Jude]

I have a law enforcement friend that went to that seminar. All you get is certified to teach Combatives techniques. Which is cool and all but really. It is basic. I mean really basic. He could demonstrate the techniques, but when rolling he was still green. It is actually a little embarrassing because when you teaching certain BJJ techniques, you like to get on the mat and show them. It sux when the people you try to demonstrate on are more knowledgeable than you are. That usually means you shouldn't be teaching.

All I really saying is that the seminar style is a good way to get those techniques from the source. But BJJ isn't a mystery, everyone has the techniques now. You just need to use them, drill them, and then when you think you know them, drill them some more.

So what are you planning to do? Go to the seminar, then come back and roll with friends, or other training parters. That is what my Law Enforcement friend did. He is starting to get pretty decent. It is hard for him though, because he has no one to ask questions too. But he is getting the reps in.

Something like that.

Thanks for the tips.

[jnp]

Well, I may have to look again, BJJ places have a tendency to "come and go" around here. My friend that trains at the Gene Lebell affiliate up here said there weren't any active school close. I'll check again, thanks.

I'd train with the Gene Lebell affiliate, if you don't already. 'Judo' Gene was no stranger to restraining tactics himself.