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    Omoplatarmbar from Rubber Guard

    No, that's not a typo.

    The second technique I took photos of today was a move I thought I developed. But I didn't. I "made it up" one day and was further convinced of my genius, but later realized that I'd seen it in Nino Schembri's omoplata instructional and forgotten it, until it subconsciously resurfaced while I was rolling. Nevertheless, I've taken it and infused it with the rubber guard I picked up at Eddie's seminar, which is what I present to you today.

    Notice that I don't use any gi grips, so don't cry for a no-gi version just because my dummy is wearing a gi.

    My training partner is Jon, who was awarded his blue belt just yesterday.



    Jon is in my closed guard with good posture (head up, back straight, hands on my chest).



    I open my guard and put my feet on the floor, scooting back as I sit up and gable grip behind his head.



    I fall back, pulling him down to break his posture. My right foot goes to his hip, and if I can't step on his hip, I know I'm too close and need to scoot higher. I need to be able to push his hip away to keep from being stacked.

    Now and throughout this and all rubber guard moves, keep constant pressure with your legs, squeezing your knees, curling your legs. This will prevent them from pushing your legs down and driving a knee in.

    Notice how he put his hands on my chest. If he just posted on the floor I'd skip ahead and go straight to overhooking and New York.



    I bring my left foot high on his back and hook under it with my right wrist for mission control. Notice that I am not using the fingers or even the palm of my hand, but the actual wrist.

    Squeeze knees, leg curls.



    My left fist comes under his right elbow and punches up through the inside.



    I zombie my hand to the sky, which puts his arm on the ground and in my armpit so I can overhook it.



    With his arm overhooked, I hug around my knee and grab my shin for New York. Squeeze knees, leg curls.



    I let go of mission control with my right hand and do a big circular karate block over his head, bringing my arm down on the other side of his head.



    I regrip my shin with my wrist for what is called chill dog. Why? Because by now they know you want the omoplata and will try to hug your leg to stop you from turning out for it, so you need to "chill, dog" and wait for it.



    Not content to chill, I pull my foot in front of Jon's face.



    Time for the kung fu move, which may be hard to understand from photos since it's a seemingly minor movement but one that Eddie is very adamant about being done precisely. Without taking my hand off my shin, I lift my elbow and circle my forearm behind my foot.



    As it comes around, I straighten my foot and bring my palm to the other side of my shin.



    With my hand now on the other side of my ankle, I push it, forcing his head away and turning my so I can enter the omoplata.



    But as I'm turning out for the omoplata, Jon grabs my knee and presses it to the ground, trying to stop me and probably start bringing his knee through my guard.



    I reach out and grab his elbow.



    I yank his elbow to me as I kick my leg straight, breaking his grip off my knee.



    With his arm pulled to me, I triangle my legs around it and the arm in the omoplata.



    Both hands grab his wrist and make sure his thumb is pointing up as I pull his arm down and arch my hips to submit him with an armbar. Or an omoplatarmbar, as it were.

    If he managed to pull his elbow out of the armbar, I can just go back to the omoplata.

    Enjoy.

    #2
    Thankyousoverymuch

    This is fantastic. <3 rubber guard

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      #3
      At the seminar, Eddie also showed another grip to use to break posture. You basically RNC their face. From the front:



      And the back:



      Falling back to break posture:

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        #4
        Originally posted by Aesopian
        Tender moments.

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          #5
          You don't even have to use rubber guard for this combination. If you go for an omoplata and your opponent defends by posturing and turning into you, you can get your foot under their face and do the same thing. I use it all the time and have always called it the X-Armbar. One of the keys though, you can't grab the gi, make sure you grab his wrist and he won't be able to jerk his arm out.

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            #6
            great stuff thanks.

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              #7
              That's pretty sweet. I'll try it out ASAP. Thanks.

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                #8
                Samfoo is correct. You can do this armlock off any omoplata from any guard. I often get this on standing guys when I go for an omoplata from spider guard. They'll usually lose balance and fall, making me come up on top with both of their arms still triangled, where I'll finish the armbar.

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                  #9
                  NOW I understand what an Omaplata is....it's been something beyond my comprehension for some time, but I see what you mean now, despite how you finished with an armbar.

                  And that FNC? The pressure is being put on his neck by your shoulder?

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                    #10
                    I'm not trying to choke or neck crank anyone with the FNC. I just use the grip to lock all of my body weight to their head so I can fall back and break their posture. Then I'm just going to mission control and continuing with the move like normal. I'd need 1) big guns and 2) to be a huge asshole to try to finish the face crank.

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                      #11
                      Most excellent! Great pix! The break posture/head control shots are just what I need to get started drilling.

                      Interestingly enough you hit on just the point that was tying me up at the class this weekend. I couldn't get my left leg up high enough over my partners head to lock down into mission control. Why? Because I was pulling him down too high on my body! Which I didn't realize Saturday or even Sunday when I tried drilling with my wife. (I initially thought I was having trouble on Saturday because my partner was much taller than me, and bigger, but when I had the same problem with my petite wife on Sunday I thought, WTF? but wrote it off to being sore and not as limber on Sunday.)

                      But you said "I fall back, pulling him down to break his posture. My right foot goes to his hip, and if I can't step on his hip, I know I'm too close and need to scoot higher. I need to be able to push his hip away to keep from being stacked."

                      Bingo! Scoot higher! That's what was missing for me (well, plus everything that follows, but I want to at least be able to get into Mission Control). Get the right foot on the hip (I was very poor on this at the class) - that tells me if I am distanced right. I also think you are right about opening guard, I can't get the positioning I need without opening.

                      But ooh, the FNC! That's going to be a lot of fun this weekend even if I don't get any further.

                      Thanks again. It should go without saying we all know that classes and drilling take a lot of time, much less taking all these pix (how many to get what you wanted) then posting them.

                      Got any tips about how to do leg curls and knee squeezes if you don't belong to a gymn? I was going to get (ugh, the horror) a thighmaster for the squeezing and some elastic bands or ankle weights for the curls, but any suggestions appreciated. Also, if you have any pix completing the Omoplata instead of going to arm bar, I'd love to see them....

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                        #12
                        The photos I used above are actually the second set I took. I had shot the technique once through before, but felt the angle didn't show the grip changes well enough. But rather than let these go to waste, I've decided to share them since 1) it's nice to have a second angle on a move and 2) I think they offer some insight into how much flexibility I'm using, especially in my hips.



                        Gable grip on neck after breaking posture. Right foot on hip.



                        Mission control. Here is when to start judging how much flexibility I'm using.



                        Fist in place to zombie.



                        Zombie complete. Jon's arm is on the floor.



                        New York.



                        New York from another angle.



                        Karate block my arm to the other side.



                        Second angle.



                        Chill dog.



                        More chill dog.



                        Begin kung fu move.



                        Forearm and shin parallel.



                        Buddha palm strike to my ankle.



                        To prevent the omoplata, Jon grabs my knee.



                        Grabbing his elbow.



                        Yank the elbow, kick the leg, break the grip.



                        Triangling the legs around the arms.



                        Grabbing the wrist to finish.

                        So how much flexibility do I seem to be using? It didn't feel at all extreme when I did it, but maybe I'm just a weirdo.

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                          #13
                          OldDog,

                          Not positioning yourself to be able to step on their hip is what I consider the most common error people commit when doing rubber guard, and the main source of all of the complaints that it requires too much flexibility. You do need to be limber to do it, but even I can't do it if they are high on my upper body and I just start trying to force my legs up their back. Now that I've taken to only doing rubber guard with my hips high and foot on the hip (and the other details Eddie teaches on the grips), I haven't had any trouble with my hips, which I had previously hurt pretty bad trying to do rubber guard on someone who stood and shook me out of it.

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                            #14
                            now, please correct me if i'm wrong, but i understand this to be a straight up neck crank (even with the hand on top of his scalp, rather than on his forehead). if your opponent sees it and taps, you'll be dq'd for a cervical attack with no choke, even if you don't crank it.

                            my understanding of both cbjj rules and technique names is pretty dim, though, so if someone can explain if i'm wrong here...

                            it's one of my favorite techniques, but not something i sink unless someone's being a real bitch. i've had it inculcated in me that it's something to be careful about.

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                              #15
                              I repeat, I'm not putting any pressure into that grip beyond just using it to hold the head as I fall back. It can be a neck crank but I'm not going to waste much energy trying to get a tap with it.

                              Also, considering that I got this from Eddie Bravo, I don't think he's worrying about CBJJ rules.

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