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1 hook in from the back= more options than two?

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    1 hook in from the back= more options than two?

    Last edited by Draven; 3/26/2012 4:33am, .

    #2
    Gi or no gi? Because, at least with a gi, there are a ton of back/turtle attacks in Judo that aren't typically taught in BJJ. BJJ rules strongly favor and encourage getting two hooks before proceeding with further attacks, otherwise you're giving up 4 points. Judo doesn't care. For example, armbar entries are pretty straightforward when you have one hook.
    Last edited by Res Judicata; 3/26/2012 10:03am, .

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      #3
      There are also 10-15 or so different collar choke variations from a clock choke set up (that I know, I'm positive there are a ton more) to set-up from turtle with or without the hook in Gi. I'll try and get some video of them and the set-ups I use....err, was taught.

      Have you also tried the various hook set-up options, i.e., spiral ride, base chop, choke dekes to open the elbows, etc.

      Also, don't forget the various crucifix, reverse oma-plata, lapel wraps, and reverse triangle options that can be set-up from the single hook and/or turtle.

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        #4
        Here's a good armbar series from one hook in the turtle, since that's the position you were asking about. Works with or without the gi.

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          #5
          Just triangling your legs and seatbelting your arms and pull like crazy will be a spine lock. And if doesn't make them tap it might just open up the neck for a choke or the hip for a second hook.

          Bit douchey to perform fast and hard in training but very effective.

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            #6
            If you like triangles, there are many judo-style side and reverse triangle entries from the turtle. I can't directly link the video, but many of them are demonstrated starting at about 4:20 in the video linked here. They are skilled techniques, though.

            http://aasejudo.wordpress.com/2010/02/28/sankaku-waza/

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              #7
              Missing post moved here: http://www.bullshido.net/forums/showthread.php?t=115757
              Shut the hell up and train.

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                #8
                And, because I'm bored, this is probably my favorite turn over at the moment: bow and arrow choke from the turtle. The initial grip is the key part.

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