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  • Emevas
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    I actually don't feel the other guy was going easy on me, he says he more doesn't like to engage. He came from an ammy background, and likes to mainly get in, jab, and get out.

    I did attempt luring a few times, and manage to capitalize on it once with a right hook. I think with my poor footwork, I need to stop chasing and let him come in more.

    Thanks for the tips. I hope I can get some more sparring in soon.

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  • NoGroinNoKrav
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    1. At first I kind of though you were dropping your guard as a means to lure the opponent into a strike, Though I really did not see you follow up on that so I assume now it's an accident. You could drop your guard a tad to lure the person into a straight punch, and then slip and come in with a hook.

    2. Combo's Combo's Combo's. I can tell you that guy was going easy on you. We all know the feeling. He is holding back the combo's. Once you get a dominant position you need to keep moving and keep up that pressure.

    3. Your defense is stale. It seemed like you primarily blocked most of them by covering up. You could have went for some slips, or if thats uncomfortable you could simply...uhh whats the correct term.... Well it's when you swat them out of the way a bit. It was good that you would close guard as he got closer to you, but remember when your opponent is farther away you should have your guard out a bit to make defense easier.

    Now I know I said a lot. I will be honest you are probably better then me, Though I can spot these problems I can tell you I have trouble myself. For that long a hiatus you did quite well.

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  • Emevas
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    I'm with my in-laws in CO right now, and my base is about to get an inspection, so sparring has been on low priority. I'm just lifting presently.

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  • tao.jonez
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    EMEVAS - you got any more vid? been a couple weeks...

    I expect you to move like Floyd Mayweather by now.

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  • dwkfym
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    Originally posted by tao.jonez View Post
    2 - You're reaaaaaly reaching on a lot of those shots. Look at your hooks. They are coming from miles away. Seems like inside is where you'd do best based on your size and reach.
    Nice eye TJ

    I'm thinking maybe he needs to work on distancing. The reach looks pretty even, I would work on staying knife-edge close to the limits of his reach. You can work slips blocks and leans from there and counter without having to reach so much.

    Also I would snap the jabs a bit more straight. Its easier to get the glove to slip in through the openings and its faster. Right now it looks back-handish.

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  • Emevas
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    Great advice, thanks man.

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  • tao.jonez
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    Originally posted by Emevas View Post
    For combos, I never really see an opportunity to throw. I can barely get the single shot in before he's already away. Should I just throw a combo regardless?

    The inside is definitely where I shine, I just can't get in there with the large working space and my poor footwork.
    If we're talking specifically about this guy here's what I'd do:

    Watch the tape - his lead foot is moving before the shot almost every time. He's lifting his heel and stepping in pretty slowly. Time him! He drops his right on the way in. Keep your chin down, take his little jab and throw a nice tight left hook and see what happens. You'll like it.

    Beyond that you nailed it - footwork and basic defense. Hands tight and elbows in.

    Overall you looked better when he came to you. Let him come in, then move forward to keep him inside your power range. For this guy uppercut on the inside is your friend.

    You can time him coming in and there's no real worry about his power when he's moving back. He always moves straight back or slightly to your right. Throw an overhand right or a long right hook when he's retreating.

    If the guy doesn't adapt this stuff should work pretty good.

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  • Emevas
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    For combos, I never really see an opportunity to throw. I can barely get the single shot in before he's already away. Should I just throw a combo regardless?

    The inside is definitely where I shine, I just can't get in there with the large working space and my poor footwork.

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  • tao.jonez
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    Originally posted by Emevas View Post
    I'm posting this in this forum because I'm nowhere near a technical enough level to require advanced discussion. This is my 3rd time boxing after about a 2-3 year layoff

    YouTube- Sparring 27 Mar 10

    YouTube- Rnd II 27 Mar 10

    YouTube- Rnd III 27 Mar 10

    I'm the less filipino looking individual not wearing socks.

    I'm amazed at how little time my hands are by my face, especially my left. I'm not using angles on the defense either. I'm either shelling or moving back, which is going to murder me. I also notice I tend to stand upright when he bobs and weaves, and my hands just fall apart when throwing hooks. If anyone else has anything they notice or some tips, I'd appreciate it.
    1 - You aren't throwing combos. I see tons of single shots from way outside and very few 2's and 3's.

    2 - You're reaaaaaly reaching on a lot of those shots. Look at your hooks. They are coming from miles away. Seems like inside is where you'd do best based on your size and reach.

    3 - Yeah, defense. You see it. Those hands need to be up.

    4 - You're dropping the right really bad when you jab, especially multiple jabs. If he threw a decent left hook it would cause you huge problems.

    5 - It looks as if you're trying to move forward + counter punch. I don't think you're fast enough for that right now.

    6 - You're over-reaching when you block. This is leaving you open for fakes/feints.

    I'm sure a lot of it is just being rusty. You seem to have some good basics. I say get in front of a mirror and do some shadow boxing for technique. Keep it tight and focus on technique and I bet you'll improve really fast.

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  • Emevas
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    Originally posted by cufaol View Post
    Basically : what everyone else said. :)

    About the ring-problem: try and confine your space with whatever is available to you. It should help a lot. And try to remember not backing up more than one step.

    And thanks for the vid. Good luck with the shoulder.
    Yup, the shoulder should be pretty good. I used to feel it hang loose in the socket when I threw overhands, but now everything feels strong.

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  • cufaol
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    Basically : what everyone else said. :)

    About the ring-problem: try and confine your space with whatever is available to you. It should help a lot. And try to remember not backing up more than one step.

    And thanks for the vid. Good luck with the shoulder.

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  • Emevas
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    The guy I'm sparring with was a captain of his college's boxing team, so he's my main source of training at this point. We have 1 school within 100 miles here that trains boxing, but I can't get in touch with the owner, and the place is always closed whenever I visit. For now I'm just getting back in shape and seeing if I'm gonna stick with boxing, and if that's the case I'm gonna see if I can join up in the summer.

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  • Conde Koma
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    Sang hit the main bits. I think the best thing to do is to just spar more, you need to shake off that ring rust. You seem tight and tentative, sparring more should help you loosen up. You're also plodding back onto your heels a lot, so remember to stay up on your toes and keep your movement dynamic. Again, just sparring more should help, and so will shadow-boxing and quick mitts drills with a coach.

    are you training under anyone, or is this just sparring with people you know?

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  • Emevas
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    Yeah, we use a little more cramped space upstairs sometimes, and maybe with some improvement on my footwork I can catch him, haha.

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  • Sang
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    If he doesn't want to trade you've got to force him to by cutting off the ring. Since you don't have a ring that might be a little tough :P. if you can't find a ring to spar in it might be an idea to at least section off an area with the right dimensions.

    I hate sparring people on an open mat, it changes the rules so dramatically. I think that people who learn to spar without a space constriction pick up some really bad habits, a good 90% of our fighters /advanced students backup and over-rely on distance as defense because of this.

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