Improving take downs in grappling.

[jnp]

Not trying to defend the guy but he listed his experience here:


Personally I think the blue belt is bullshit, especially given his videos on Facebook, just for the record.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...7&id=593178806

Much appreciated.

preschol, you are a dabbler. While it's true that you have a significant amount of experience, it appears you have never stuck with anything long enough to master it. I could be wrong however. I'm sure you're formidable on the mat.

Based on the experience you listed, you are not more qualified than an Olympian or Renzo Gracie. You are free to argue points contrary to these individuals, but I will listen to them rather than you.

On this site, Omega is a former professional fighter, BKR has over 3 decades of Judo experience. Also he never talks about things he doesn't know about. (Sadly, you do not seem to suffer from that problem.) Raycetpfl and WFMurphyPhD are verified BJJ black belts. You are free to argue with any and all of us here on B.S.

Conversely, we are free to judge your comments based on the merit of your experience.

[BackFistMonkey]

Attention preschol, two staff members have now asked you to list your background and or experience. You may not realize this due to the quote function working improperly, but both Omega and I have asked you to list your experience. I prefer to ask, but there's always the option of confining you to Trollshido if you decide to be uncooperative.

I can't decide whether you're a high level grappler trolling the forum with inane statements, or you really believe that you're qualified to make comments like the ones you have made.

There is nothing wrong with quote function JNP.
Nice to see you around. I hope everything is kosher in your neck of the woods.

[Michael Tzadok]

Attention preschol, two staff members have now asked you to list your background and or experience. You may not realize this due to the quote function working improperly, but both Omega and I have asked you to list your experience. I prefer to ask, but there's always the option of confining you to Trollshido if you decide to be uncooperative.

I can't decide whether you're a high level grappler trolling the forum with inane statements, or you really believe that you're qualified to make comments like the ones you have made.

Not trying to defend the guy but he listed his experience here:

Sorry for being such a post whore.

Here is my martial art background:

Fake Black Belt in JJJ
Blue Belt in BJJ from Renzo Gracie
High school varsity wrestler.
Ranked 5th in my division by NAGA (North American Grappling association, 20 years ago)
NY State Intermediate BJJ Champion
Renzo Gracie Combat Classic Winner (36-40 year old division)
Boxed in the Cus Dammato camp with Peter Illendo (Mike Tyson’s stablemate) and the Perez brothers.
Kyokushin Karate with Shidokan champ Matt Ives
San Shou with Mike Altman
Muay Thai with Kru Pong
Kali/JKD Inosanto system
Progressive Fighting systems with Professor Joe Soliz.
MK Lightening FMA system (Filipino Martial Arts)
CHL and tactical firearm training

Personally I think the blue belt is bullshit, especially given his videos on Facebook, just for the record.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...7&id=593178806

[jnp]

orly? I was going to stay out of this conversation until I saw this. What is your grappling background that would make you come to this conclusion?

Attention preschol, two staff members have now asked you to list your background and or experience. You may not realize this due to the quote function working improperly, but both Omega and I have asked you to list your experience. I prefer to ask, but there's always the option of confining you to Trollshido if you decide to be uncooperative.

I can't decide whether you're a high level grappler trolling the forum with inane statements, or you really believe that you're qualified to make comments like the ones you have made.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I got lucky with one in my first competition back as an adult. The guy I threw looked me up after to shake my hand, it was so pretty. I have yet to repeat that magic, although I still like that throw.

If you weren't hooked on Judo before...

[NeilG]

I got lucky with one in my first competition back as an adult. The guy I threw looked me up after to shake my hand, it was so pretty. I have yet to repeat that magic, although I still like that throw.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I wish my timing was better for ashi bari. Ash bari is one of those things that when done properly looks like the the person took a fall for ya.

It really does seem to capture the best principles of Judo and Jiu-Jitsu.

[Raycetpfl]

I was pretty good at Kouchi Gari, in fact my original coach let it slip one time to a mutual friend of ours that it was the only throw I had mastered. Then she told me he said that, LULZ all the way around. Now I suck at Kouchi Gari, because I quit doing it on purpose to work on other throws.

My other ashi waza were OK. Then I had my knee surgery in 1987. No Judo for 6 months...then only groundwork, but as you know that's not exactly super safe for a repaired ACL.

I did a serious study of ashi barai (De Ashi Barai, Okuri Ashi Barai, and Harai Tsurikomi Ashi) for a year or so with one of my teachers in New Orleans (Jacque Legrand, RIP) because of my knee rehab (physio and psychological).

Thanks to Jacques, I got a lot better at ashi barai. Never good enough to beat black belts in competition (at national level), but way, way better than I ever had been before.

Anyway, Judo has many aspects, but it's all still Judo.

I wish my timing was better for ashi bari. Ash bari is one of those things that when done properly looks like the the person took a fall for ya.

[BKR]

I think I will need more ten more years or more of practice with it, I think.
I can be a slow learner.
But, I look forward to getting the chance to spend the time working on it.
:)

Naw, a year would do, maybe less. There are tandoku renshuu you can do that help with the general process, and paired drills that stop short of throwing.

It's just that the ashi barai are...superficially? ...different than the usually big, turning throws that everybody loves to do.

Just remember, it's not really all in the feet, despite being ashi waza.

[Dr. Gonzo]

You need a year and a lot of good uke, preferably with a cushy tatami/floating floor.

I know you can tolerate repetition and boredom...

I think I will need more ten more years or more of almost daily practice with it, I think.
I can be a slow learner.
But, I look forward to getting the chance to spend the time working on it.
:)

[Dr. Gonzo]

I think that the style of play that Rodolfo Viera exhibits is exactly what point based, non-striking, Jiu-Jitsu competition done by a black belt should look like.
It is beautiful, fun to watch for experts or outsiders alike, and shows tremendous mastery of the foundational basics of both the stand up Jiu-Jitsu tournament game, and the ground Jiu-Jitsu tournament game.

[BKR]

Yes, if I could pick one Judo throw to get to become a master at, it would surely be de ashi barai.

You need a year and a lot of good uke, preferably with a cushy tatami/floating floor.

I know you can tolerate repetition and boredom...

[BKR]

Don't forget the ogoshies.

I did forget the O Goshi.

[BKR]

Yep, that would be him.

[Dr. Gonzo]

I was pretty good at Kouchi Gari, in fact my original coach let it slip one time to a mutual friend of ours that it was the only throw I had mastered. Then she told me he said that, LULZ all the way around. Now I suck at Kouchi Gari, because I quit doing it on purpose to work on other throws.

My other ashi waza were OK. Then I had my knee surgery in 1987. No Judo for 6 months...then only groundwork, but as you know that's not exactly super safe for a repaired ACL.

I did a serious study of ashi barai (De Ashi Barai, Okuri Ashi Barai, and Harai Tsurikomi Ashi) for a year or so with one of my teachers in New Orleans (Jacque Legrand, RIP) because of my knee rehab (physio and psychological).

Thanks to Jacques, I got a lot better at ashi barai. Never good enough to beat black belts in competition (at national level), but way, way better than I ever had been before.

Anyway, Judo has many aspects, but it's all still Judo.

Yes, if I could pick one Judo throw to get to become a master at, it would surely be de ashi barai.