does anyone here use a wooden dummy for either wing chun or any other style for training? i dont' have much exerience with it and was wondering if it's worth having...
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Originally posted by Shuma-GorathSince owning one turns your into a complete dork, I'd say buy a heavybag instead. Note that the bag only counts if hung from a moving chain and not made out of a duct-taped corpse.
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There are a couple in my gym but they're rarely used.
Supposed to help with sensitivity training, which can't be a bad thing if it actually works. Also conditions the arms too and builds up strength/muscle endurance that you can't get from weight training.
I did a BJJ/Kali seminar with Rick Young a while back and at the end we just did about 15 minutes of Chi Sao or whatever it's called from Wing Chun. I didn't find it useful specifically for my training but damn, it does hurt your shoulders and arms after 10 constant minutes!
If it does condition the arms well then i might learn some of the sets. Would surely be of some use when it comes to using the arms to block high kicks/knees etc?
But in reference to your first question, i wouldn't bother wasting the money on one myself.Last edited by spirez; 12/03/2006 5:56am, .
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Unless you are training wing chun, I wouldn't consider a dummy.
If you are training wing chun, I would suggest that you spend your time on a heavy bag for a considerable length of time before starting to work on the dummy.
In wing chun, the dummy is not really used for sensitivity, or arm conditioning (though arm conditioning can sometimes be a secondary benefity). It is used to train proper technique, footwork, and transitions (at least that is what I was taught).
For most wing chun people the dummy is just another empty form (IMO). Without the applications ("decontructing the dummy"), it is useless. Legend has it that Yip Man only taught the actually applications of the dummy to about 5 people or so. I'm not sure how true that it, Tom Kagan would be a good one to ask.
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Originally posted by Shuma-GorathSince owning one turns your into a complete dork, I'd say buy a heavybag instead. Note that the bag only counts if hung from a moving chain and not made out of a duct-taped corpse.
Have a nice day,
Tonuzaba
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"Bruce Lee sucks because I slammed my nuts with nunchucks trying to do that stupid shit back in the day. I still managed to have two kids. I forgive you Bruce." - by Vorpal
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Originally posted by kgubbinsdoes anyone here use a wooden dummy for either wing chun or any other style for training? i dont' have much exerience with it and was wondering if it's worth having...
Now to all the loudmouths crying about heavy bags: the possibility of owning both the dummy and the bag obviously did not appear to you...
Buying punching bags is certainly less expensive and you can use them without extensive special training, which is not the case with the wooden dummy. Even if you'd get one, you wouldn't make much use of it without knwoing what techniques and how to practise on it.
So, next time, think before posting questions like these.
It's like asking if one should buy a Formula1 racing car, despite not being a Formula1 driver nor planning to become one...
Tonuzaba
CLICK & WATCH: I got BULLSHIDO ON TV!!!
"Bruce Lee sucks because I slammed my nuts with nunchucks trying to do that stupid shit back in the day. I still managed to have two kids. I forgive you Bruce." - by Vorpal
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Originally posted by TonuzabaSince you wouldn't know what owning a wooden dummy does to a person hadn't you tried, and since you'd never talk out of your ass instead out of experience, I guess that makes you a complete dork too.
Have a nice day,
Tonuzaba
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If you're using the dummy just for practicing the wing chun wooden dummy form or drilling individual techniques, just use the one at the gym.
I don't really see a reason to get a wooden dummy for yourself unless you're really desperate to spar and haven't been able to find a sparring partner or if you plan to train with it more often than you have time to go to the gym for whatever reason.
I honestly don't think I've learned much from using the dummy that I couldn't have learned via other means.
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