A common theme I'm seeing on Bullshido

[Dustin_211]

I studied Northern Shaolin Praying Mantis (later changed to "Fighting Mantis" after the shaolin threatened a lawsuit), under Sifu Reginald Wheatley, who has since apparently decided to focus on his music. I stayed in the class for about a year and achieved a rank of blue belt. This school was relatively small (about 20 students MAX) and did point-sparring a LOT. The video you guys have posted show some weird wrist striking and grappling techniques that were not present in the style i was learning. What we did was basically northern longfist...Chinese boxing. The famous "mantis claw" hand position was used purely to redirect an opponent's balance, using the circular "deflection" tactic common is Kung Fu. It was used to upset balance, cause a "distraction", and usually was followed by a low kick or foot stomp which was used in combination with a transition of stance. Emphasis was on point-sparring and forms ie: winning trophies. This style teaches good avoidability/deflection/parrying skills and fast movement. If you use those weak strikes though, you are gonna get your ass kicked. I've recently taken up Isshin-Ryu under a great 8th Dan Sensei. It uses the vertical punch, but in a more realistic way which utilizes momentum and physical strength to deliver power to the strike instead of the weak snapping technique+"chi" strategy. Switch to a hard style. Kung Fu kinda sucks.

[Dustin_211]

A common theme I'm seeing on Bullshido

A common theme I'm seeing on Bullshido is the idea that if something doesn't win a MMA match, then it isn't effective on the street. You guys are silly. Here is why Isshin-ryu CAN be effective.

1. A big muscular man punching the shit out of somebody is effective.

2. Isshin-ryu training (with an effective IE: physically torturous and evil instructor) strengthens the body and teaches a solid body-punching technique.

Hence, good Isshin-ryu training can help you become a big muscular person, who knows how to punch the shit out of an opponent.

Oh ya...and just to piss everyone off... Western-boxing/MT/MMA/horizontal fist karate is weak and counter-intuitive. You use your fists in an un-natural, monkey-like way because that is what youve seen on TV and in the movies since you were a child.

[SaintHamish]

A common theme I'm seeing on Bullshido is the idea that if something doesn't win a MMA match, then it isn't effective on the street. You guys are silly. Here is why Isshin-ryu CAN be effective.

1. A big muscular man punching the shit out of somebody is effective.

2. Isshin-ryu training (with an effective IE: physically torturous and evil instructor) strengthens the body and teaches a solid body-punching technique.

Hence, good Isshin-ryu training can help you become a big muscular person, who knows how to punch the shit out of an opponent.

Oh ya...and just to piss everyone off... Western-boxing/MT/MMA/horizontal fist karate is weak and counter-intuitive. You use your fists in an un-natural, monkey-like way because that is what youve seen on TV and in the movies since you were a child.

Glad you Necro'ed the thread to get your point across.

Well done.

[battlefields]

Shut the fuck up, n00b, get the fuck out.

STFU and GTFO. For reiteration.

[It is Fake]

You know what else is a common theme?

People new to training educating the masses of bullshido while.....

I've studied this style (Dragon Claw Kung Fu System) a bit in Columbia, MS.

I stayed in the class for about a year and achieved a rank of blue belt.

I've recently taken up Isshin-Ryu

I study martial arts (and have attended classes in several styles for 8 years) for my health and self-fulfillment.

.....admitting they are dabblers with very little martial art experience.



Culled:
Can i get more info on Mantis Kung-Fu - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

1point2: Do you teach Judo at your Isshin-Ryu school? - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

[mumbles]

Shut the fuck up, n00b, get the fuck out.

STFU and GTFO. For reiteration.

Lol double

[mumbles]

how is western boxing "un-natural"?

[Stu-Jitsu]

Shit, this thread is choc-full of commonly occuring themes on bullshido.

1. "You guise alwayz diss tha kung foo, but MY kung foo is teh r0x0rz - AND i was tot by grandmaster X/Morpheus"

2. "Ha you all so silly, MMA/Boxing/MT no good for teh streetz, only my supa deadly krotty style can help yoo thar"

3. Noobs necro'ing old threads and clogging up YMAS.

4. Some guy saying something like, shut up and do boxing/judo.

There. Now, shut up and do boxing or judo or something.

Stu xD

[Mtripp]

Odd, I was just speaking to someone about my experiences with Isshinryu last night.

I trained at a VERY harsh place where they actually told people to go to the makiwara and break their knuckles! I was lucky my Judo teachers stepped in and pointed out that "your hands are pliers not hammers..." OK, they actually said something else, but its early and I have no idea how to spell "micromater."

In any event, martial sport trumps martial arts every time. If you are serious about your training, pick one of those.

[battlefields]

He's not serious about training.

[SaintHamish]

In any event, martial sport trumps martial arts every time. If you are serious about your training, pick one of those.

Or a brick. And then drop it on your head.

And do Judo.

[Soldiermedic]

Finally, now I know what Bullshido is all about....

I've been in the dark this whole time.

I bet 6 months from now he'll resurface and talk about how pressure point fighting is the shit

[Hertzyscowicz]

Oh ya...and just to piss everyone off... Western-boxing/MT/MMA/horizontal fist karate is weak and counter-intuitive. You use your fists in an un-natural, monkey-like way because that is what youve seen on TV and in the movies since you were a child.

You are absolutely right. This can easily be discerned by looking at the taxonomy of animals, which clearly puts humans under the order Mantodea, whereas monkeys are under the order Primates. Therefore, strictly vertical strikes and generally mimicking a mantis is both more natural and intuitive than forcefully straightening your arm so your knuckles intersect the volume your opponent's head occupies.

[Dargentus]

Maybe he should go into the wild and observe Mantids in their natural habitat. Learn their wiley ways and then he could come back and teach us all how to fight properly.

Then he'd also be the reel d34dly.

I'd imagine that it'd have to be a pretty intensive research project taking at least 10 years.
Op, you should get right on that.

[Hesperus]

I grapple like a monkey too.