What the Chi guy did

[devilboy7778]

YouTube- Chi Energy Amazing Footage

For some reason I decided to youtube chi power. I came across this video and thought it was crazy. But the paper thing is interesting (1:50 - 2:28)
Anyone know how this trick would of been pulled off?

[Conde Koma]

Chi demo by John Chang's student - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

Authentic chi demonstration? - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

It looks like the jury is still out on John Chang, but Randi says the tricks are common-place.

[Cy Q. Faunce]

http://www.dreamlandmagic.com/flash-paper.html and a small gadget will do it. I notice the paper does not ignite until his hand thrusts quite close to it.

[devilboy7778]

http://www.dreamlandmagic.com/flash-paper.html and a small gadget will do it. I notice the paper does not ignite until his hand thrusts quite close to it.

The thing is he took one of their newspapers. UNLESS newspapers and the flash paper have similar qualities.

[Cy Q. Faunce]

How sure are you that the paper he ignited was an ordinary newspaper, not switched by sleight of hand, or by a confederate shortly before the demonstration took place?

[meat monkey]

Or that they had not printed a copy of the newspaper ONTO some flash paper?

Not saying they did, just another way it could have been done.

[Cy Q. Faunce]

Honestly, what part of that footage seems like anything but yet another magic trick?

It's not carried out under controlled conditions.

The filmmakers appear to be not only utterly credulous about the chi practicioner's powers, but have been striving to get him on camera since the early 1980's.

They only recently got his permission to film him, presumably when they allowed sufficiently loose conditions that he figured out a way to fool them.

He is in close proximity to the paper when it lights, and may even have been able to touch it. Before that moment of possible contact, he had plenty of time to spray it with a little lighter fluid.

No magician or other expert in detecting deception is present.

The only provable differences between a magic trick and this video are two:

• Legitimate magicians make no explicit claims of paranormal ability.
• A magician could have done this trick ten times more awesomely. From across the room. Under conditions that would challenge anyone but a fellow magician to explain.

[meat monkey]

Also, the title of this thread makes it sound like (to me, before actually opening the thread) like somehow a Chi master has left a .. uhh.. "mess" on the carpet. Folow this with the mental image of said Chi mater being smacked across the nose witha roled up newspaper.. "Bad Chi Master, BAD!"

*ahem*
yes well anyway

[ADM]

Well I'm calling bullshit, at 4:48 if that doesn't look like a sleight of hand then I don't know what is. If his chi is real, then why would he need to do that?

[devilboy7778]

The filmmakers appear to be not only utterly credulous about the chi practicioner's powers, but have been striving to get him on camera since the early 1980's.
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Interestingly enough I believe thats how he got to people to feel that zap. They were all so into it that of course their mind would want to believe that; kinda like the no touch knock out
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[HereBeADragon]

What tv show was this shot for? It was done presumably in the 80s but for who? The whole they wanted to believe so they felt it seems iffy if in fact the scientists presented were really scientists and really skeptics. Usually thats the point where these things fall apart. Slight of hand is a definit possibility but some back ground on where this film came from would be helpful in establishing the legitimacy of the documentary itself. The bit with the LED was interesting.

[helmutlvx]

Honestly, these tricks are just confidence tricks.

My reference: I used to read tarot cards for money. I never read a manual or anything. Just used cold reading and visual cues.

[Sri Hanuman]

Honestly, these tricks are just confidence tricks.

My reference: I used to read tarot cards for money. I never read a manual or anything. Just used cold reading and visual cues.

Ditto. Gullible party girls love hearing generalizations applied to them.

[Monkfg]

Everything looks like electricity. Can be generated by the nervous system, but at that quantities? Would be cool...

[Sri Hanuman]

Everything looks like electricity. Can be generated by the nervous system, but at that quantities? Would be cool...

So far, the only quantified ability displayed by anyone, was the raising of body temperature by Gtum-mo practitioners. The best they ever managed, I believe, was 8-15 degree (C) increase.