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    "Judo" wrist lock by guy in cool black gi

    http://www.livestrong.com/video/3388...o-wrist-locks/


    YouTube- How to Do Judo Wrist Locks

    I wonder what martial art he teaches? He has multiple black belts. Plus his gi is kick ass. Also, the uke in the vid has a kick ass belt. Black with a white stripe in the middle. Damn man!
    Last edited by CarlosJesena; 4/08/2010 6:06am, .

    #2
    I am writing them an email. This is horrible. I am telling them to contact USA Judo and get real information about Judo. Premier MA is a belt factory and a McDojo. The stuff on the Livestrong site is a piss poor account of Judo and BJJ or as they call it Brazilian Judo.

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      #3
      ...I thought wristlocks *are* illegal? Isn't that what he's saying? I'm a judo n00b, though.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Coach Josh View Post
        I am writing them an email. This is horrible. I am telling them to contact USA Judo and get real information about Judo. Premier MA is a belt factory and a McDojo. The stuff on the Livestrong site is a piss poor account of Judo and BJJ or as they call it Brazilian Judo.
        Is this a call for MABS?

        Oh yeah btw you guys should also know that he teaches Krav Maga too.

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          #5
          my old krav school just affiliated with Premier...doesn't bode well for them

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            #6
            kote gaeshi is still taught in kata and not an integral part of Judo but the whole series he is showing about Judo is horrible. IDK WTF they were thinking about using this guy but JHFC that's just horrible.


            NO this is just YMAS

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              #7
              This appears to be the same instructor...
              http://www.omnimartialartsny.com/con...nstructor-bios

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                #8
                Originally posted by Styygens View Post
                This appears to be the same instructor...
                http://www.omnimartialartsny.com/con...nstructor-bios
                WHOA. IS THAT SHAOLIN NEXT TO HIM? Srsly. Shaolin Ribeiro teaches this guy?

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                  #9
                  I've always been curious about effectiveness of wrist locks for self defence, and saftey of them in sparring. A long time ago I used to do Bujinkan ninjutsu and I was told that the standing jointlocks we did were too dangerous to practice live. We were allowed to spar if we agreed on a safe rule set but it wasn't usually encouraged.

                  OK so the reason we never see wristlocks in UFC could be because the wrist counts as a small joint?

                  Some things I'll add. I saw another thread in the past about a wrist lock technique allowed in BJJ "Cowtoe" but this does not involve throwing the person from a wrist lock. Also when I did JJJ for a while the instructor said when I asked that small joint locks such as wrists and fingers were allowed in sparring but they had to be applied in a controlled manner.

                  Okay, I know I tend to be very scatterbrained with these so I'll restate my questions that I want to know the answer to the most: In your opinions are standing wrist-locks effective for self defense? Are wrist-locks too dangerous to apply against a resisting partner?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by pokeroo View Post
                    Okay, I know I tend to be very scatterbrained with these so I'll restate my questions that I want to know the answer to the most: In your opinions are standing wrist-locks effective for self defense? Are wrist-locks too dangerous to apply against a resisting partner?
                    They're legal in a lot of BJJ/sub-grappling competitions and in MMA. They work if you first pin your opponent and isolate their arm. What doesn't work so well are the hey-presto wrist locks you see in ninjitsu et al, where you just grab the guy's hand out of the air and lock them straight away without controlling their body.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by pokeroo View Post
                      OK so the reason we never see wristlocks in UFC could be because the wrist counts as a small joint?
                      we never see wristlocks in sanctioned mma because:
                      • it's illegal to grab the gloves
                      • fighters' hands and wrists are taped and wrapped for support and safety
                      • it's hard as shit to land a wristlock on sweaty guy who's interested in not tapping


                      some bjj tournaments classify wrists as small joints.

                      Some things I'll add. I saw another thread in the past about a wrist lock technique allowed in BJJ "Cowtoe" but this does not involve throwing the person from a wrist lock.
                      mao de vaca. it's bjj; non-comedy wrist locks are applied from controlling positions. 90% of the wrist locks i've seen in bjj are finishes off omoplatas and such. "i've got you, you know i've got you, i don't feel like cranking this so i'm going to lock your wrist and we can get back to rolling."

                      what separates bjj type wristlocks from aiki type standing wristlocks is control and sequencing. bjj is position before submission; jma will use the submission (such as it is) to gain position... which is where we run into issues.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by pokeroo View Post
                        I've always been curious about effectiveness of wrist locks for self defence, and saftey of them in sparring. A long time ago I used to do Bujinkan ninjutsu and I was told that the standing jointlocks we did were too dangerous to practice live. We were allowed to spar if we agreed on a safe rule set but it wasn't usually encouraged.

                        OK so the reason we never see wristlocks in UFC could be because the wrist counts as a small joint?

                        Some things I'll add. I saw another thread in the past about a wrist lock technique allowed in BJJ "Cowtoe" but this does not involve throwing the person from a wrist lock. Also when I did JJJ for a while the instructor said when I asked that small joint locks such as wrists and fingers were allowed in sparring but they had to be applied in a controlled manner.

                        Okay, I know I tend to be very scatterbrained with these so I'll restate my questions that I want to know the answer to the most: In your opinions are standing wrist-locks effective for self defense? Are wrist-locks too dangerous to apply against a resisting partner?
                        In short, standing wrist locks aren't completely worthless in self defense but they are a low percentage technique, especially against anyone who knows the first thing about fighting. Basically they are difficult to apply to fully resisting opponents (not impossible of course, but difficult) especially when you can't control the rest of their body. On the ground I find it easier to use wristlocks because I can isolate an arm, control the other person's posture, and use the technique as a way to set up something else even if I don't get the tap. I also believe that standing wristlocks can work well as a pain compliance or "come along" technique, especially if the other person doesn't really want a full out fight.

                        To answer your next question, no I don't think wrist locks are "too dangerous" to apply to a resisting partner but like any joint lock you should know what you are doing before attempting it, and always apply it with control rather than brute force. Wristlocks can bite in quickly and hurt a lot, and in my opinion are completely legit as long as you aren't grabbing and twisting fingers along with it.

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                          #13
                          Ummm...

                          It depends.

                          Or is that too wishy-washy? I just think "self-defense" conjures up the image of some 300lb Mohawk-coiffed street thug in spiked leather foaming at the mouth and screaming for blood and brandishing a meat cleaver as the threat (maybe that's just me?) and on someone like that, wristlock isn't going to be my first thought. (Running like the wind probably would be. Thank God for roadwork...)

                          But there are other ego fights against much lesser threats in which a wristlock might be a perfectly viable choice. I mean, my gramma use to get fierce drunk, and I just wasn't willing to punch her out or RNC her (she would thrash like a cockroach sprayed with insecticide). But locking her wrist, leading her back to the lazyboy recliner and strapping her in was far more humane.

                          Okay, I exaggerate. But my point is, tools exist for different situations.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Coach Josh View Post
                            The stuff on the Livestrong site is a piss poor account of Judo and BJJ or as they call it Brazilian Judo.
                            I...thought "brazilian judo" was just a semi-joke that folks put in their style fields, as in, "i do bjj which is like brazilian judo lololol".

                            Has it turned out to be a complete joke, rather than a semi one?

                            Stu xD

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                              #15
                              As somebody with wrist lock experience I am going to give some advice. don't use them is self defense, sure you might get one but you are guarenteed to get the modified inside leg kick to the groin.

                              Seriously I have been doing hapkido for twelve years and I know I still would not land one in 99.99% of fights (maybe a slight exageration but you get my point).

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