Acting based on ignorance, is pure stupidity.

[AriesKai]

Blue cheese dressing is good. This thread, however, sucks.



You rush forward into incoming fire with your knife in your teeth? lol I stopped reading there. FRAT.

You take the path of least resistance, and get to safety immediately. You don't rush into incoming fire like some retard on a videogame. This is real war, real blood, real life and death.

Frat boy.

[AriesKai]

AriesKai, you seem to have completely missed the point of this thread. The discussion isn't whether or not military personnel do/should get hand-to-hand training because everyone here,particularly the ones with the green rectangles next to their names notating current or former military service, knows they do and agrees that they should. Nor is it about whether soldiers are tougher than cops or boxers,wrestlers,cage fighters etc, because that is the sort of sweeping generalization that only a fool would engage in. No, the point of this thread is whether or not a particular style, which markets itself as a quasi-military system,is any good . If you have any first hand experience with haganagh, feel free to stick around and share. If you want to discuss your perception of the current strengths and weaknesses of police and/or military training start a new thread. If you choose to do the latter, though, keep in mind that h2h training is, always will be and probably should be, a small part of police and military training. After all, while real cops and soldiers do sometimes face scenarios like the ones you describe, the notion that officers routinely engage in fisticuffs with gang members who politely attack singly or in pairs no matter how large their group is, or that soldiers are more effective when they get dropped solo behind enemy lines and kickbox their way Norris/ Van Damme style through enemy battalions is laughable. Of course, being the quintessential Police-And Military-Tough-Guy that you are,you already knew that, right?

Thank you. You just left me at peace.

[Diesel_tke]

Posting my DD form 214 from Active Duty service in both the United States Marine Corps and the United States Army is the same thing as me posting my social security number, my date of birth, my name, ect. If you know anything about it, then you'd know that i'm NOT going to do that.
Also, you're NOT going to get any personal information about me in regards to the case. If you know anything about law enforcement, all cases are sealed until opened to the public during court convictions.
What I WILL tell you is that the knife fight occurred at a Wal-Mart off of Interstate Highway 82 and Highway 75 located in Sherman, Texas.
Go ahead and call Sherman PD, give a hollar at Cheif Watt for me while you're at it.
You think because you're some 'mojo' on a 'know it all' forum that you're some guru about other people's lives?
What are you claiming to be some fucking psychic with special abilities?
My combat training, I would share (if I gave a fuck to list off the MANY things that i'd done, taking LOTS of my own personal time on my day off work).

A high schooler? I tell ya what, you can call me at a number and I will speak to you over the phone about this little "bullshit game" you try to play. Once you realize how deep and intimidating my voice is, you'll take a second thought about your statement about me being some high school fuck.

In fact, I personally think most high school kids are disrespectful, dishonorable, dumb fucks who think they know everything about life before they've even experienced it.

You, sir, can go fuck yourself and get off your high horse.


In fact, everything that I said was true in every sense. I see that absolutely no one had anything to contradict me at any point.
Show me where I was wrong! I am BEGGING you!



Don't let this loser fool you, anyone. Just because he has some sort of 'administrator power' doesn't mean that he's anything special in reality.
He's another person that puts his pants on the same fucking way (with just.. less information and intelligence level).

Actually, if you would read my post I didn't ask you to post any personal information. I asked for you to e-mail it to a moderator. You know, like one who has a LEO tag or Military tag. They should be able to be trusted with information like that however. You can redact the SS# and other personal information other than your name, MOS, awards, and stuff like that to prove that you are who you claim to be.

Yes, I know a little about law enforcement. I do not know much about Texas law, but I do know about Florida law. In Florida specifically Escambia County, we abide by the sun shine law that states that every thing is open to the public. And if anyone was arrested it is easy to find out because you just have to look on the blotter.

Since you were attacked, I'm sure you pressed charges. Do you not have a case number or police report number?

List ANY of you Marital Arts training in the military that makes you so much of a bad ass that you can kill any Martial Artist on the street. Since that is YOUR claim not mine. Then I will show you how you are wrong.

After all, you came here and made all these claims, not me.

[fourTwenty]

AriesKai = Best Troll Ever.

No seriously, he had me going to.

On the off chance that he actually believes his own bullshit, he may be interested to here this. There is a tag-line in the SEALs that goes "Why should I teach you to fight, if your any fucking good with that gun your holding then you don't need to fight." And another goes "The person who wins a H2H confrontation on the field is the one who's friend shows up first with a gun." Though I think that last one is from the Marines so may not exactly apply.

Plus, living dead set between Camp Lejune, Seymore Johnson AFB, and Cherry Point I can personally vouch that they don't teach normal enlisted men shit about fighting H2H. As I was always winning untill his thirty fucking friends showed up and tried to change my race.

[AriesKai]

Your post was not deleted it was moved here.

And no, you are the dumbass.

Which is why I claim that "soldiers only fight with guns" and that "Navy SEAL training doesn't mean you can fight".


Right?


You should come down to my department. We'd fuck you up, boy.

[Diesel_tke]

Sure give me your number, I'll call you. No, I'm not intimidated by voices. Or you can give me your name or badge number and I'll verify through Dallas PD that you are an officer there.

I have the Sherman PD info:

http://www.shermanpd.org/main.htm

But I can't find a blotter for 4 days ago. Give me a minute though.

[DerAuslander]

I've trained in the same hand to hand system as the SEALs, under the people who developed it and trained the SEALs. You need to shut the fuck up. Now.

[DerAuslander]

AriesKai, if you had half a clue as to what the SEAL hand to hand program entailed, you would shut the fuck up.

[Tex]

Posting my DD form 214 from Active Duty service in both the United States Marine Corps and the United States Army is the same thing as me posting my social security number, my date of birth, my name, ect. If you know anything about it, then you'd know that i'm NOT going to do that.
Also, you're NOT going to get any personal information about me in regards to the case. If you know anything about law enforcement, all cases are sealed until opened to the public during court convictions.
What I WILL tell you is that the knife fight occurred at a Wal-Mart off of Interstate Highway 82 and Highway 75 located in Sherman, Texas.
Go ahead and call Sherman PD, give a hollar at Cheif Watt for me while you're at it.
You think because you're some 'mojo' on a 'know it all' forum that you're some guru about other people's lives?
What are you claiming to be some fucking psychic with special abilities?
My combat training, I would share (if I gave a fuck to list off the MANY things that i'd done, taking LOTS of my own personal time on my day off work).

A high schooler? I tell ya what, you can call me at a number and I will speak to you over the phone about this little "bullshit game" you try to play. Once you realize how deep and intimidating my voice is, you'll take a second thought about your statement about me being some high school fuck.

In fact, I personally think most high school kids are disrespectful, dishonorable, dumb fucks who think they know everything about life before they've even experienced it.

You, sir, can go fuck yourself and get off your high horse.


In fact, everything that I said was true in every sense. I see that absolutely no one had anything to contradict me at any point.
Show me where I was wrong! I am BEGGING you!



Don't let this loser fool you, anyone. Just because he has some sort of 'administrator power' doesn't mean that he's anything special in reality.
He's another person that puts his pants on the same fucking way (with just.. less information and intelligence level).

Apply for the mil. tag on this forum. You don't have to post it for all to see, but we would like to know that your claims hold water.

[Diesel_tke]

AriesKai, what was the exact date of your alleged knife fight? You said 4 days ago right? Just wondering because I don't see any reporting of it on this daily blotter:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-bea...-79552117.html

Let me know where the person you fought was booked in at, and I will call booking to verify it. No big deal.

[Diesel_tke]

Here is the blotter for 4 days ago and still no knife fights at wal mart.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-bea...-79320637.html

Weird.

Nothing here either:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/archive/?year=...cember&page=11

[AriesKai]

Actually, if you would read my post I didn't ask you to post any personal information. I asked for you to e-mail it to a moderator. You know, like one who has a LEO tag or Military tag. They should be able to be trusted with information like that however. You can redact the SS# and other personal information other than your name, MOS, awards, and stuff like that to prove that you are who you claim to be.

Yes, I know a little about law enforcement. I do not know much about Texas law, but I do know about Florida law. In Florida specifically Escambia County, we abide by the sun shine law that states that every thing is open to the public. And if anyone was arrested it is easy to find out because you just have to look on the blotter.

Since you were attacked, I'm sure you pressed charges. Do you not have a case number or police report number?

List ANY of you Marital Arts training in the military that makes you so much of a bad ass that you can kill any Martial Artist on the street. Since that is YOUR claim not mine. Then I will show you how you are wrong.

After all, you came here and made all these claims, not me.

Ah see... this is is where you are wrong.


I do have over 30 years of training and experience...
but I don't claim that I can 'kill' any martial artist on the street. That is something we all wish that we could do, although can never be done.
There IS always someone better, that fact can never be denied.


But ok, I will give you the jist...

I began training when I was 5 years old in Yokosuka, Japan in the art of Okinawan Karate. The only reason I was in Yokosuka, is because my father was stationed there as he was US Navy UDT (now SEALs/DEVGRU). I progressed in Okinawan Karate and left Japan at age 11.
After moving to San Diego, I began training with one of my fathers old instructors in Shotokan and Jujitsu. I trained under this instructor and my father for 3 years until we moved to Jacksonville, Florida.
There, I began training in Judo and continued to train in Jujitsu under a licensed instructor, and my father as well until I was 17.
At age 17, I joined the United States Marine Corps, where a lot of my 'real' training began. There as an Infantryman (0311), I trained in a mixture of Escrima, Kali, more Okinawan Karate, Kenpo, more Judo, Aikido, and Sambo.
After the first Gulf War, I joined the US Army as an O-3 Captain (going 'from green to gold', enlisted to officer) and trained in their hand-to-hand combat training system (somewhat similar to the corps version, but not as extensive at the time), and the combatives that we were taught in the Ranger Regiment (much more extensive, actually) as an Infantry commander of the 3rd Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment. There, I trained under Tony Mayo (a VERY skilled Martial Artist that would probably mop the floor with anyone in the 'Bullshido Grandmaster forums', before I progressed on to Drill Sergeant School. In Drill Sergeant School, we trained extensively in hand-to-hand combat, hand-to-weapon combat, and of course weapon-to-weapon combat. I was a Drill Sergeant over the 2-58 Infantry Training Battalion in Fort Benning, GA (Sand Hill) for over 5 years before I was finally discharged in September of 2006.
After being discharged, I became a LEO (Patrolman) with the Dallas Police Department located at 2331 West Northwest Highway in Dallas, TX 75220 for 2 years before coming over to the Sheriff's department.
I cross-trained with the Dallas SWAT teams, and was ready to be selected before I found out about the SRT.
I found more of an interest in SRT than in SWAT, so this is where I am.
Also, with Dallas PD, there is a 3 year waiting period before you can perform any 'special assignments' such as SWAT or Undercover/Anti-Gang and Drug Task Force assignments.


I've found that the best Law Enforcement Officers are of prior military service in which they received a fully Honorable Discharge, especially one's being of prior special operations fields. They (of course) have extensive training and experience in the field of anti-terrorism tactics, and use of deadly force.
If I were to choose any man to be on my team after being given the choice of a man with 10 years law enforcement experience or 10 years law enforcement experience with military experience included... I'm gonna choose the man with Military AND Law Enforcement experience.
Why?


You tell me.

[AriesKai]

Here is the blotter for 4 days ago and still no knife fights at wal mart.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local-bea...-79320637.html

Weird.

Nothing here either:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/archive/?year=...cember&page=11

lol still acting based on ignorance, i see?

You think they're really going to post that on the news around here?
Not going to happen, kid.

This was in SHERMAN, NOT Dallas/Fort Worth.

Around here, they don't even headline/post killings in Oak Cliff.
Dallas residents... you know EXACTLY what i'm talking about...

[AriesKai]

Apply for the mil. tag on this forum. You don't have to post it for all to see, but we would like to know that your claims hold water.

How do I do this??

And let it be known, I would NEVER post any of my own personal information over the internet. Especially on some childish forum that i'm about to exit and completely ignore ever existed. This is my day off and i'm trying to enjoy a good'ol Coors for Gods sake.

[DerAuslander]

You're still full of shit, AriesKai.