Just how tough is Steven Seagal, really?

[tgace]

As to his pistol skills...

I saw his new television show recently. In one scene he did put two rounds touching on a paper target head shot. Which while a nice display of fundamentals is far from proof of expertise. How he performs under pressure with multiple targets, reloads, movement, moving targets etc. is unknown.

[CrackFox]

The 80's? Ever heard of them?

Seagal wasn't big until the 90's. Though I suppose he probably did the groundwork - sucking cock after cocaine-numbed cock - in the 80s, in order to get there.

[BestatwhatIdo]

Seagal is a fat smug fuck with a greasy ponytail and a look on his face like he has trapped gas. He can't act, always playing the same fat smug pony-tailed fuck in every one of his movies.

How the fuck did he manage to become a big time movie star? It wasn't acting talent, and it wasn't looks. I can only imagine that he gives spectacular, earth shattering head, and that he's taken every studio exec's load in his face with enthusiasm.

The 80's? Ever heard of them?

[Adam Alexander]

Steven Seagal is so tough, his fight scenes aren't scripted. A film crew follows him around while he acts natural.

[CrackFox]

Seagal is a fat smug fuck with a greasy ponytail and a look on his face like he has trapped gas. He can't act, always playing the same fat smug pony-tailed fuck in every one of his movies.

How the fuck did he manage to become a big time movie star? It wasn't acting talent, and it wasn't looks. I can only imagine that he gives spectacular, earth shattering head, and that he's taken every studio exec's load in his face with enthusiasm.

[Mtripp]

As far as Seagal being an innocent victim, I was always under the impression that he brought it on his damn self.

Hmmm... he claims to have been a CIA agent. Claims everyone is afraid to fight him, including major legit MA fighters. Etc....

Yep, seems that way to me.....

[Mtripp]

I believe you, but knowing what little I do about Gene Lebell's career, how respected he is, it seems a bit ludicrous that someone like Steven Seagal could get such a "blacklisting" to stick. Crazy...

His claim was Gene assaulted him. That caused the blacklisting.

When Gene choked him the first time, Steven said he wasn't ready. When he told Gene to go ahead the second time, he attacked Gene's groin. The rest you know.

I heard about the casting couch first hand, from the source. She seemed very unnerved by it... I said "Would you like me to make you feel a lot better?" Then told her the LeBell story.... she laughed so hard the tears were running down her leg.....

[Larus marinus]

Just for those who haven't seen them. Seagal's Aikido demonstrations.

Basically, they're Aikido demonstrations.

YouTube- Steven Seagal on Merv Griffin
YouTube- Steven Segal Kicking real life ASS! Aikido Martial Art
YouTube- Steven Seagal

[Jim_Jude]

Just to make it clear, I didn't say that I didn't believe that Gene LeBell choked Seagal out and caused him to poop his pants, or that Gene has any sort of agenda - or that I believed that Seagal has been the innocent victim of a decades-long media smear campaign.

Just trying to highlight the issue of believing everything written about the man (or any man) without considering the credibility of the source - and that a lot of people who've been famous for a long time have 'everyone's heard'-type stories/rumours attached to them, which may or may not be true, s'all. I didn't have any specific incident in mind when I wrote my post.

As far as Seagal being an innocent victim, I was always under the impression that he brought it on his damn self.

[Jim_Jude]

Anyway, I had heard that Seagal's skills were legit but his ego is WAY out of line. Two things I wanted to ask if anyone knew about:

1) I heard he was one of the best shooters in the United States (maybe an exaggeration from the guy who told me this), and had taught the LAPD and various other LE organizations firearms techniques. Anyone care to verify this? I saw an episode on A&E showcasing his firearms skill and he seemed pretty good, but I'm shitty when it comes to shooting so what the fuck do I know?

Kim Jong-Il is supposedly one of the best pistol marksmen in North Korea... take all claims like this with a grain of salt. Now if someone like Jerry Miculek says it, THEN it's the gospel truth.

[Jim_Jude]

YouTube- Steven Seagal Runs Like a Girl


Mtripp you are officially awesome, that story was fucking amazing!

He keeps his wrists loose like that on purpose. That's his "Chi Run".

[Jim_Jude]

One of the stunt men, upon hearing that claim, said "I'll take that bet." That man, was Gene LeBell. Gene walked up, got behind Steven, and put the choke on. Steven tapped right away and said "I wasn't ready."

Gene said "Let me know when you are ready." Steven said "now," and grabbed for Gene's balls.... Gene sprawled, and choked Steven out, and held it for good measure.

Steven made a mess in his shorts, both poo-poo and pee-pee; Bob Wall has the cleaning statement from the set about this.

When Steve came to; he threw Gene off the set, and had him blacklisted. The National Inquirer caught wind of the story, and wrote that a 60 something stuntman just choked out the great Steven.... so a deal was made. Steven would end the blacklisting, and Gene would keep his mouth shut.

Mr. Wall and myself made no such deal.

I believe you, but knowing what little I do about Gene Lebell's career, how respected he is, it seems a bit ludicrous that someone like Steven Seagal could get such a "blacklisting" to stick. Crazy...

[kenso]

I haven't even told why Jenny McCarthy left her "audition" and did not do "Under Seige."

Is it because she thought Aikido causes Autism?

[Larus marinus]

Mtripp, so you're saying Segal said,"Grab my neck?" And then he was like,"No, not that way?"

:laughing4

For that, you get +1.

I just dropped my cigarette in my lap.

[Adam Alexander]

Mtripp, so you're saying Segal said,"Grab my neck?" And then he was like,"No, not that way?"