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    taijiquan VS krav maga VS medieval wrestling

    Hello,

    this is a conversation I recently had with a friend on facebook about Tai Chi Chuan (Taijiquan). He practices medieval fencing and wrestling.
    I think my friend's approach to the whole is quite superficial.

    What do you have to say? :beatdead: :lookround




    HIM:
    ...does taijiquan satisfies you? And how much weapons do you do?

    ME:
    I'm not yet very interested in weapons, it's already a lot that I have to do with my hands

    HIM:
    Oh so disappointing. I wanted you to show me something with the lance.

    ME:
    perhaps in 10 years

    HIM:
    Crap. But why ten years?

    ME:
    how much do you think it will take at MINIMUM to learn almost-decently any martial art? =D

    HIM:
    It depends.

    ME:
    probably I will be able to complete the short form in 5-6 years

    HIM:
    Tai Qi: A Life Long Achievement!
    It's a great slogan for the style.

    ME:
    yep

    HIM:
    Way too much time, in my opinion. It might be that I don't share that mysticism of all those "traditional" styles...

    ME:
    it's just that you don't know how it works, if you would be a practictioner you'll find that it's really immense

    HIM:
    Oh, but I KNOW that it's immense.

    ME:
    you probably know but you can't "feel" it

    HIM:
    I object to the fact that to be an effective combat method, it should be a combat method.
    But probably here we enter in an eternal discussion so I'll let you go.
    Without offence, heh. ;)

    ME:
    no problem

    for example, some people say krav maga can be learnt in one year and it is one of the most effective methods, but krav maga is not completely a martial art, it is more like a very effective combat method

    HIM:
    So, probably, maybe, we have two different concepts of "martial art".

    ME:
    medieval fencing and wrestling are not martial arts, but combat methods,

    HIM:
    XD

    No no.

    Medieval fencing is SCIENCE, like a friend of mine used to say. :P

    ME:
    krav maga is science too, I know
    it is based on mathematics and logical formulas

    HIM:
    Sorry, I have to go, let's finish this another time. Bye.

    #2
    I thought you guys were about to cyber, complete with medeival outfits and lances
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      #3
      I bet your friend could kick your ass. And Medieval wrestling is more of a martial art than Taijiquan.
      Dan Severn loves raping people.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Holy Moment View Post
        I bet your friend could kick your ass. And Medieval wrestling is more of a martial art than Taijiquan.


        hmmmmm.... you're quite partial I suppose :5arg:

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          #5
          Originally posted by Holy Moment View Post
          I bet your friend could kick your ass. And Medieval wrestling is more of a martial art than Taijiquan.
          Why must you abuse my inner child?:ingun:
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          I used to fuck guys like you in prison.
          Originally posted by Rock Ape
          Dude I kill people for a fucking living.

          Dipshit

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            #6
            Originally posted by fsx View Post
            ME: medieval fencing and wrestling are not martial arts, but combat methods,
            Why can't they be both?
            Shut the hell up and train.

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              #7
              Is Kickboxing a martial art, or is it a combat method?
              Is Andy hug a martial artist, or a combat mathodist??
              omg im so confused, I think you may have turned my worldview on martial arts upside down.
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                #8
                medieval wrestling, half-swording and sword play > Most things I've seen shat out of China.
                I say you fight and video it.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Hidden Ronin View Post
                  medieval wrestling, half-swording and sword play > Most things I've seen shat out of China.
                  I say you fight and video it.

                  LOL that would be interesting, but my friend weighs about 110Kg and I weigh about 75Kg... and really I don't think I'm worth anything in combat with Taijiquan, since I still am a very basic level practitioner... but I'll consider your suggestion. ;)

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by fsx View Post
                    LOL that would be interesting, but my friend weighs about 110Kg and I weigh about 75Kg... and really I don't think I'm worth anything in combat with Taijiquan, since I still am a very basic level practitioner... but I'll consider your suggestion. ;)
                    You can realign his meridians and cause sudden death...
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                    Dude I kill people for a fucking living.

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                      #11
                      I like how everyone rags on CMA so much. You should see this polish kickboxing vice champ at my club, and one of the guys I train with at the local dojo. Both are traditional CMA fighters. One made it to finals in world classics IKF, other was san da vice champ.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by dwkfym View Post
                        Is Kickboxing a martial art, or is it a combat method?
                        Is Andy Hug a martial artist, or a combat methodist??
                        omg im so confused, I think you may have turned my worldview on martial arts upside down.
                        well, honestly I can't say for sure. maybe wikipedia can help us?

                        Martial arts or fighting arts are systems of codified practices and traditions of training for combat. While they may be studied for various reasons, martial arts share a single objective: to physically defeat other persons and to defend oneself or others from physical threat. In addition, some martial arts are linked to beliefs such as Hinduism, Buddhism, Daoism, Confucianism or Shinto while others follow a particular code of honor. Many arts are also practiced competitively, most commonly as combat sports, but may also take the form of dance.

                        So in this definition falls almost anything.

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                          #13
                          4/10 plus for the effort of writing that conversation, but not very original or even remotely amusing.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by nifoc View Post
                            4/10 plus for the effort of writing that conversation, but not very original or even remotely amusing.

                            cheerz... I just wanted to know your opinion. and this is it! :icon_boun

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by nifoc View Post
                              4/10 plus for the effort of writing that conversation, but not very original or even remotely amusing.
                              That's because it's night time in Sweden, and you're ready to turn in. For those of us at work mid morning, this is bread and butter.:qright6:
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                              Originally posted by Emevas
                              I used to fuck guys like you in prison.
                              Originally posted by Rock Ape
                              Dude I kill people for a fucking living.

                              Dipshit

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