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    #46
    Originally posted by FriendlyFire View Post
    You misunderstood something, but it was a mistake made easily enough. I said our tournaments were point sparring, not our class sparring. I have had my nose broken, and countless bloodied noses. My brother also has had many bloody noses, and is currently out with a bruised rib. Depending on who you are fighting, and what you want to do, we go from light to hard sparring. Never full force, but it can get hard. As for the guy, by former I meant like 10-15 years ago, I don't know exactly but it is in that range, and he did throw more then 2-3 punches in succession. Not to say some people don't fight like what you described even in class, but our instructor tries to make it a point to not play tag.

    But I am pretty awesome at point sparring, having won my share of tournaments. I have trophy that is a big cup, and another that is like 4ft. tall. I always lose in forms, and then beat those people down in the point sparring. If you want some tips to get your own over-sized trophy, just message me.
    Check my style and location fields and offer me some more help, kid.

    I know exactly what you're talking about, and well...it's not what you think it is just like it's not what I thought it was when I was your age and did the same thing.

    Trophy sizes. Seriously?

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      #47
      Originally posted by MrGalt View Post
      Check my style and location fields and offer me some more help, kid.

      I know exactly what you're talking about, and well...it's not what you think it is just like it's not what I thought it was when I was your age and did the same thing.

      Trophy sizes. Seriously?
      Well I am glad that is clear cut and not ambiguous. The whole advice for point sparring and trophy sizes were a joke, relax. More importantly, I am not interested in this thread becoming about me. If you feel you need to make some noble effort to get me to realize what you already have, don't worry, I am already going to be leaving my school. See my initial post.

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        #48
        Originally posted by FriendlyFire View Post
        I am not interested in this thread becoming about me.
        Tough shit. 1point2's corpse has been violated so many times at this point that you can stick both hands in his asshole and clap them. Yours is relatively fresh.

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          #49
          So 1point2, I was rooting really rooting for you. I believed you that you could change the style from the inside. Changing the MA style from the inside, focusing on what you have had handed down. I am wondering if quitting MA cold turkey really the best medicine for you...but I do not know Issyu-ryu.

          Many of the "good Doctors" here would argue for amputation, but there are other cures. But if it works for you and you are happy, have at it, and I wish you a speedy recovery. Don't count on bedside manners from them though, the are onto the next patient already.

          KO

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            #50
            Originally posted by 1point2 View Post
            Link to story thread plz. Strangely enough, when you're not e-challenging me for dubious reasons, I actually think we'd get along.

            WW--Jack's comments were in person at the 2009 Grand Ultimate OMA/CMA One Heart Conclave of Martial Arts, and in emails/chats subsequently. Also, I have indeed started BJJ, have no fear, under just-now-promoted-to-BJJBB Mike Wacker in Fishkill, who is under Steve Kardian.

            Johnny--I know they made this transition in the past. Sometimes I wonder if they make it harder or easier for others to do the same.

            Thanks for the encouragement JP, NoTeefa, Zendo, et al. I'd actually looooove do to San Da or MT or some other form of kickboxing (I had a grand old time at the TD, and I want to do it again and fix all those bad habits). I am looking at possibilities locally, though I hope to move soon if I can get a job in NYC.

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            "BJJ N00b" is the style term you're looking for.

            If you are in NYC do SanDa instead of MT. It's mo' bitchen.
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              #51
              Originally posted by KO'd N DOA View Post
              So 1point2, I was rooting really rooting for you. I believed you that you could change the style from the inside. Changing the MA style from the inside, focusing on what you have had handed down. I am wondering if quitting MA cold turkey really the best medicine for you...but I do not know Issyu-ryu.

              Many of the "good Doctors" here would argue for amputation, but there are other cures. But if it works for you and you are happy, have at it, and I wish you a speedy recovery. Don't count on bedside manners from them though, the are onto the next patient already.

              KO
              A major part of my decision to leave was due to the fact that my attempts at change had reached a natural set of stopping points. I couldn't in good faith--as has been discussed a little bit--improve the grappling any more than the increase in frequency. The school was not amenable to changing the sparring rules to include head contact, different gear, low kicks, clinching, or harder contact. Weapons sparring stayed stagnant for no real reason except that nobody felt like making it useful (hitting below the belt, clinching, and striking with anything but the weapon was prohibited). Class schedules stayed the same despite calls for black belt classes or other changes. I got no support in my attempts to remove dead drills or extraneous forms. I did what I could with my 1 night a week, but it wasn't working.

              I pushed, and got some things accomplished, but eventually I was the only one who wanted to make more changes. Maybe Isshinryu isn't capable of changing that much. Maybe it is. But here, I believe I maxed out on change.

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                #52
                Well, good luck in your next endeavour. May I suggest finding a Kyokushin school?

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by War Wheel View Post
                  "BJJ N00b" is the style term you're looking for.

                  If you are in NYC do SanDa instead of MT. It's mo' bitchen.
                  This reminds me--I welcome commentary on the BJJ place I go to. I just posted a review of Black Hole BJJ (Mike Wacker) in the Combat Sports section. If anyone has thoughts on the review, or knows the school/teacher, please chime in. I'm evaluating my options with BJJ too.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by DarkPhoenix View Post
                    Well, good luck in your next endeavour. May I suggest finding a Kyokushin school?
                    Sorry, too much kata, not enough face punching. I think KK is great, and it would teach me lots about how to apply what I know...but I need face punching, and I can't stand to learn another kata for at least a year.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by 1point2 View Post
                      Sorry, too much kata, not enough face punching. I think KK is great, and it would teach me lots about how to apply what I know...but I need face punching, and I can't stand to learn another kata for at least a year.

                      That makes sense. The kata really shouldn't be much different from Isshin-ryu though.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by 1point2 View Post
                        Sorry, too much kata, not enough face punching. I think KK is great, and it would teach me lots about how to apply what I know...but I need face punching, and I can't stand to learn another kata for at least a year.
                        I've gotta warn you,

                        From a guy who had to memorize and perform like 15 of them for his last promotion in a bullshit school, you might never get the urge to do another kata, form, kembang, lunka, djuru, set or pattern ever again.

                        Although at some point I'd like to pick up a tai chi form as part of my outdoors work-out.
                        Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
                        and remember what peace there may be in silence.
                        As far as possible, without surrender,
                        be on good terms with all persons.
                        Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
                        and listen to others,
                        even to the dull and ignorant;
                        they too have their story.

                        -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by 1point2 View Post
                          Sorry, too much kata, not enough face punching. I think KK is great, and it would teach me lots about how to apply what I know...but I need face punching, and I can't stand to learn another kata for at least a year.
                          You, my friend, are a fucking genius. My hands need to be taped to my fucking ears now because of that shit. Sure, you really learn to take a shot and some good punishment, but let's face it, that is a huge weakness of Kyokushin.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by crappler View Post
                            You, my friend, are a fucking genius. My hands need to be taped to my fucking ears now because of that shit. Sure, you really learn to take a shot and some good punishment, but let's face it, that is a huge weakness of Kyokushin.
                            I keep hearing that it's just a peculiarity of competition and that in the dojo they smack the shit out each other, face and all.

                            But I don't have any direct experience of this.

                            But it does produce some funny looking fights with two guys standing nose to nose punching each other in the gut.
                            Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
                            and remember what peace there may be in silence.
                            As far as possible, without surrender,
                            be on good terms with all persons.
                            Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
                            and listen to others,
                            even to the dull and ignorant;
                            they too have their story.

                            -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by JP View Post
                              I've gotta warn you,

                              From a guy who had to memorize and perform like 15 of them for his last promotion in a bullshit school, you might never get the urge to do another kata, form, kembang, lunka, djuru, set or pattern ever again.

                              Although at some point I'd like to pick up a tai chi form as part of my outdoors work-out.
                              1 thing about those funny KK fights: I hear they develop liver punches of doom.

                              Strangely enough, the only form that I would even remotely consider learning at the moment is a tai chi form, albeit from someone who, after showing me a sequence, would glove up and punch me in the nose with that move.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by War Wheel View Post
                                "BJJ N00b" is the style term you're looking for.

                                If you are in NYC do SanDa instead of MT. It's mo' bitchen.
                                i would actually send him to train at the wat. if for some reason that doesn't work out then sanda might be an option.

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