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    1point2: Ch-ch-ch-chaaaanges

    In the movie I <heart> Huckabees, there's a point where Mark Wahlberg and the other guy are in a state of pure bliss. They've achieved detachment from, and acceptance of, worldly concerns. Their philosophy-teacher-lady reminds them that this is just a phase: periods of alignment always come to an end. The world--in the form of politics and personal desires--always intrudes. That's how I feel at the moment. My time at my Isshinryu school was great; now I move on to other things.

    I taught there, and there's ample discussion of that. But I also studied there for 9 and a half years. The school prides itself on being a strong, close-knit community, and it accomplishes that in spades. Every night after classes, about 3/4 of the students and staff stay for drinks for an hour or longer. There are demos, parties, and events every month. In that kind of environment, there's something wrong with you if you don't form close ties with the place.

    My involvement in the school was during my formative years as an adult. The dojo family brought me jobs, friends, romance, advice, and gobs of good memories. I look back on it fondly.

    Why did I leave? Light contact sparring. Point-sparring in-house tournaments. No-cross-training policy. Most of all, I became a big fish in a tiny pond that wasn't particularly interested in getting skilled at standup, clinch, and ground. I don't think they're Bullshido or a McDojo, but this is not the place for that debate.

    Leaving is fucking hard! It took a long time of realizing that I didn't fit. That I couldn't achieve my goals there. That despite how much I liked the place, they weren't for me. I've been thinking about it for a long time, in different forms. I knew that I had to cross-train, and even getting the courage to ask to do that took a while. Got a problem with that? Go tell your Brazilian BJJ instructor that you want to train SAMBO because his leglocks suck, then tell me that cross-training is always accepted. Maybe he's cool with it. Let me know how it goes.

    What got me to make up my mind? Jack's humble, wise advice. JP's NYC throwdown thread, and the throwdown itself (and its level of kosherocity in my school). Just doing judo--seeing a good group of people train hard and get fucking awesome at that skillset--was a big eye opener.

    I know that people like Sirc, Boyd and Hedge have it easy--some TMAer comes in, and they're cursing at the new guy and telling them to quit their TMA dojo before the Bullies finish saying hello. Maybe they're antisocial enough to leave a place that easily, but more likely I bet they just haven't been in a position where social ties and a shared history conflicted with training goals. "Just quit" is easy in theory, but this is real for people. "Just do BJJ/whatever" might truly be the best option, but it's not particularly illuminating as a recommendation, and it frankly sucks as advice.

    Leaving is also easy to fuck up. It's easy to insult people on the way out; it's easy to burn bridges. My advice: make sure you want to leave, say it isn't for you, make a polite goodbye, and leave.

    Anyway. This is my thread to explain the change in my style field, and to pre-empt the losers who will jump up and down shouting "my thread did it!" Sorry, it didn't, Sirc. You're just a bitch. This Bullshido journey started with my first Newbietown thread, and took me here by dint of intelligent discussion, honest personal histories, and polite sparring with the fine people of the NYC TD, plus IIF, DerAus, Vieux, and too many more to list.

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    Post # 2500. I'm officially a cheap bastard. LOL.
    Last edited by DCS; 6/15/2009 5:08pm, .

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      #3
      you can call sirc and boyd et all names all you want

      just don't waste too much time and energy on it, since they figured this shit out years before you and you're behind.

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        #4
        Out of curiosity, can you post a link or quote to Jack's comment?

        Be careful claiming BJJ if you haven't started yet. Good luck with your training :occasion1
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          #5
          Congratulations! Just add muay thai and you will have the holy trinity of martial arts!

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            #6
            Originally posted by JohnnyCache View Post
            you can call sirc and boyd et all names all you want

            just don't waste too much time and energy on it, since they figured this shit out years before you and you're behind.
            In the interest of clarity, the only one he called a name was Sirc.

            And there are few people who Sirc's posting style haven't rubbed the wrong way at least once.

            Yes they figured this out years ago. He's figuring it out now. Big step for him, one that a lot of us have gone through. Since his is the only life he's living, he's allowed to enjoy this pivotal moment.

            And 1.2 I'd respectfully point out that even Boyd and Hedge had their part to play in your decision, not that they deserve any sort of credit or that anybody else does, but even a sharp smack in the mouth can be helpful once in a while.

            If nothing else than to witness the strength of some people's vehemence. Sometimes we learn more from an antagonist.

            Now I'd like to offer my congratulations to you. This is a big step and it's going to get slightly harder before it gets better.

            But you'll get there, man.

            Keep your head up.
            Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
            and remember what peace there may be in silence.
            As far as possible, without surrender,
            be on good terms with all persons.
            Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
            and listen to others,
            even to the dull and ignorant;
            they too have their story.

            -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.

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              #7
              Congratulations 1point2!

              From personal experience I know that it isn't an easy step to take (+ I was dating my teacher's daughter).
              But alot have been at this point before you and alot will be at this point after you (no pun intended).

              I wish you all the best with your development as a martial artist/fighter.

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                #8
                I am glad to hear. Really I am and sorry if I have been too hard on you in the other thread. No, I do not think I had anything to do with that choice. It is clear you have been deliberating this for a long tome.

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                  #9
                  Duder I used to be you. I know what this feels like. I slept in my dojo when I was 17, thought of the "grandmaster" of the school as a father figure. Don't think I don't understand.

                  I'm harsh because I know your thought process. The harsh approach is exactly what would have helped me back then. When you're that attached to a place, you will do whatever it takes to avoid leaving it, even when it's unhealthy for you. That's why you'll only make that decision when you have no place left to hide.

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                    #10
                    Also I knew this thread was gonna happen. Didn't expect it so soon though.

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                      #11
                      It's nice that you are making changes.

                      Your churlish ingratitude to those who woke you up to the ethical issues you were sweeping under the rug is less nice, but pretty much what I expected.

                      I'm not cheering for this, and I'm not going to gloat. For one thing, I still think you're not cognizant of the harm you did, nor do you seem inclined toward accepting real criticism. For another, I don't care about you or your school that much.

                      But mostly, you're still a fight ducker.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Cy Q. Faunce View Post
                        But mostly, you're still a fight ducker.
                        I missed something didn't I.

                        Is this the reference to Hedge's "challenge?"
                        Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
                        and remember what peace there may be in silence.
                        As far as possible, without surrender,
                        be on good terms with all persons.
                        Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
                        and listen to others,
                        even to the dull and ignorant;
                        they too have their story.

                        -excerpt of the poem called "Desiderata," by Max Ehrman, 1927.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by JP View Post
                          I missed something didn't I.

                          Is this the reference to Hedge's "challenge?"
                          Why do you put that in quotes?

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                            #14
                            Oh, protip: heart symbol is ♥.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Cy Q. Faunce View Post
                              Oh, protip: heart symbol is ♥.
                              Newfags can't triforce!

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