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    A MA that covers grappling with animals?

    If such a thing doesn't exist, then why doesn't it? You think it would be useful to be trained in how to submit a dangerous animal that is attacking you with your bare hands.

    I imagine if a rottweiler attacked me there would be a way I could trap it in my guard to avoid being bitten and maybe go for some kind of triangle choke on it.

    #2
    I read in the news about a kid who choked out a dog attacking his sister / friend / whatever.

    Other then that, where exactly do you want to pressure test this MA of yours?

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      #3
      Originally posted by Landser View Post
      I imagine if a rottweiler attacked me there would be a way I could trap it in my guard to avoid being bitten and maybe go for some kind of triangle choke on it.
      If you try that on any kind of "more-than-cat-sized" dog which is actually trying to attack you, make sure to formulate your last will beforehand. Taking it into guard will present your most vulnerable parts to its main weapon in a "please come and take me" manner. Please consider the anatomical differences between a dog and a human.

      As to your first question, I think its quite obvious. What kind of animal would that art be supposed to defend against? Chickens? Cats?

      Or do you think of Elephants? Tigers? Lions? Bears?

      The problem with "dangerous" animals is, that they are not called that for fun. An unarmed human is not able to fight a Tiger or Bear. Even less so a Horse or an Elephant. Or a Rhinoceros.

      Bullshido's MTripp did wrestle a Tiger and came off well enough. But that Tiger was more playing then fighting (as he said himself) and bereft of its main weapons, the claws. Had that Tiger had its claws and actually tried to kill him, MTripp would probably be dead or at least crippled.

      Thats why no one in his right mind trains or teaches a MA especially for defense against animals. Mankind invented weapons for that.

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        #4
        I heard they teach how defend against canine attacks in the military, but that's about it I guess...

        I think the only way a human can fight an animal trained to kill is with weapons

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          #5
          Originally posted by EdgeWalker View Post
          I heard they teach how defend against canine attacks in the military, but that's about it I guess...

          I think the only way a human can fight an animal trained to kill is with weapons
          Thinking about fighting an attacking dog or wild animal? You should be thinking about what caliber firearm would be sufficent not what type of martial art.

          If you are stuck without a firearm the people on nature shows or when animals attack tend to curl in a little ball and cry while the lion shreds them. I suppose protecting your neck is the smartest thing to do.
          Last edited by Urban Achiever; 6/05/2009 8:06am, .

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            #6
            Great.

            How Do Armbar: Octopus Edition.
            Where there is only a choice between cowardice and violence, I would advise violence.

            Gandhi

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              #7
              Originally posted by sochin101 View Post
              Great.

              How Do Armbar: Octopus Edition.
              Squids > Octopus.

              YouTube - calamari wrestler - wrestling match scene

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                #8
                Squid are awesome (nm it's an octopus and they call it a squid, work with me here).

                YouTube - Ed Wood the Squid Night Shoot
                Last edited by maofas; 6/05/2009 8:26am, .

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                  #9
                  Michael Vick had some ideas about fighting dogs.

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                    #10
                    Since its Roadwork Month, self defense aganist dogs might be a useful topic. I know I've been chased by neighborhood dogs a couple of times while training. It usually amounts to nothing, but you never know. During one incident I was sure I was about to get perforated, but it turned out it was just a hyperactive boxer, who wanted to play more than anything else. I was terrified for a few seconds, until it started jumping around and wagging its nub-tail.
                    Then it "boxed" me in the nuts. Who knew boxers actually punch?

                    Runner's World has an article, but I don't know about the "Turtle and scream" method they suggest. http://www.runnersworld.com/article/...5356-0,00.html
                    Last edited by willieo; 6/05/2009 8:45am, .

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                      #11
                      I'm worried that I won't be able to defend myself against rampaging shellfish. Anyone know the anti-clam kata?



                      On a semi-serious note, pulling a dog into your guard is a good way to get your dick bitten off.
                      Shut the hell up and train.

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                        #12
                        Anyone who goes to a martial arts place to learn to defend against animals is a moron.

                        Talk to a vet/vet tech, animal trainers, and zookeepers.
                        What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates

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                          #13
                          Horse tranquilizer. The ultimate animal anti-grapple.
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                          Kama Sutra blue belt.

                          Originally posted by Emevas
                          I used to fuck guys like you in prison.
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                          Dude I kill people for a fucking living.

                          Dipshit

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                            #14
                            There are martial arts that teach grappling with animals, they just don't come in your commercial school variety.

                            Steve Irwin was a master of Crocodile Jujutsu but he got destroyed when he went up against a Stingray.

                            There are many others out there. I've seen guys grappling anacondas, snakes, crocodiles, etc. But it's such a specialised field that the only time you would ever need to use the animal specific grappling styles is if you worked as a biologist with that animal.

                            So yes they exist and no you don't need to learn them unless you are working with those kinds of animals.

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                              #15
                              Smear yourself with brown sugar and raw meat. That should keep you safe from the wolves and the bears.

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