a chunner tries to start a fight with me. (aka. lack of alive training = insecurity )

[hornyhobo]

as an update after some sleep and more thought.

You are probably correct.

I'm just way too damn laid back/easy-going when it comes to social settings like the club. When I'm in a good place, short of actually
hitting me. It's pretty damn hard to get my adrenaline/bloodlust to surface or lose control of it.


and no i wasn't trying to instigate anything. not even in a remote passive-aggressive way. I was actually just trying to get him to talk about his training.

I had no idea he would be like that as my friends didn't tell me about him until after what happened.

I initially figured him as someone new to training who was just really excited about what he was doing and wanted to show it off. As that was How i was when I first started escrima and judo. (showing off a little bit, trying to get my friends to do it with me.)

Starting stupid fights, or talking shit for no reason or cuz of what they practice. really isn't me though




Gonna disagree with you. and while I didn't know him, My best friend knew him so I thought he was cool.

Martial arts isn't a Religion nor is it Politics.
It isn't faith. It isn't a system of belief.

with that said,
never mentioned specifics of my training or what I did to him. all I said is I tried it before as it was before my judo class. Wasn't trying to critique. I was trying to elicit a conversation about it. Hell I never bother mentioning my training or experience unless specifically asked or if it's significantly relevant.

with that said,
no one here was there and only one or two members (selfcrit/felipe) here who know/have met me before. so i get the suspicion that this all elicits.

and someone else mentioned that MMA/TUF types are more likely to have this behaviour... IMHO two major reasons I see as a force behind it:

1. they don't actually train and/or just Un-Alive TMA that has been MMA-fied and/or they don't compete. So practically speaking they are no different than any other too deadly artist other than they mask it with a slightly better facade.

2. They do train pretty damn hard, They compete and they win, and they are pretty damn cocky, full of themselves about it.
I only know one or two who actually meet this criteria.

I'm starting to think the chunner never practiced any martial arts to begin with. It could be he was just showing off and thought you were there to call him on his bullshit.

[Mr. Fong]

In Kyokushin? Oh, yeah. And twice on Sundays. Post back in ten years and let us know for sure though. You will probably need a speech recognition program though because I don't think the ol' hands will be up to pushing keys.

I dont get it:XXpuke:

[Rene "Zendokan" Gysenbergs]

I dont get it:XXpuke:

Your body needs time to heal and rest.
If you use a trainingregime of a topsporter, you will do some real permanent damage to yourself.
Remember that topsport is one of the unhealtiest things that there is.

- Last week a 3rd Dan Judo who competed for 10 years on national level started to train at the Bjj club. 10 years of constant competition messed up his spine/back in a way that he will never do Judo tachiwaza again.

- Bas Rutten has damaged his knees in such a way that if he trains 15 minutes of competition level MMA, the next day he will limp for a good two days (got that from an interview of him).

[Snake Plissken]

Wait....so this guy picked a fight with you over the idea that his preferred style of training doesn't "train alive" and fight enough?

[Mr. Fong]

Your body needs time to heal and rest.
If you use a trainingregime of a topsporter, you will do some real permanent damage to yourself.
Remember that topsport is one of the unhealtiest things that there is.

- Last week a 3rd Dan Judo who competed for 10 years on national level started to train at the Bjj club. 10 years of constant competition messed up his spine/back in a way that he will never do Judo tachiwaza again.

- Bas Rutten has damaged his knees in such a way that if he trains 15 minutes of competition level MMA, the next day he will limp for a good two days (got that from an interview of him).

*gulp*, well I like the idea of me training hard, how far can training hard go?

[Wounded Ronin]

You'd be better off asking in the training and health forum.

[MrGalt]

*gulp*, well I like the idea of me training hard, how far can training hard go?

Sorry for coming off like a dick. It sounds like it was a real question and not a troll like my initial reaction was. In Kyokushin you accumulate so many bruises, jammed fingers, occasional cracked ribs, etc that they'll build up over time and make you a lumpy, unwieldy bastard if you spar every day. Definitely hit up the training and health forum on this.

Basically while everybody advocates aliveness here that doesn't mean that you should be engaging a resisting opponent full-contact as your sole method of training. You should be spending more time building attributes like strength, speed, endurance, etc. than sparring anyway. Different people will disagree on the exact ratio though.

[Mr. Fong]

Sorry for coming off like a dick. It sounds like it was a real question and not a troll like my initial reaction was. In Kyokushin you accumulate so many bruises, jammed fingers, occasional cracked ribs, etc that they'll build up over time and make you a lumpy, unwieldy bastard if you spar every day. Definitely hit up the training and health forum on this.

Basically while everybody advocates aliveness here that doesn't mean that you should be engaging a resisting opponent full-contact as your sole method of training. You should be spending more time building attributes like strength, speed, endurance, etc. than sparring anyway. Different people will disagree on the exact ratio though.

Sparring once a week maybe? twice a week?
what about sparring in wrestling? O_o

[Mr. Fong]

You'd be better off asking in the training and health forum.

Thanks, nice avatar by the way

[karma2343]

The only real guys with attitudes I've met have been the tapout wearing MMA fan boy group.

Oh gosh I hate those types of guys. They always have scowls on their faces and think that they can do any MA move they have seen on TV because they don't take any actual sort of instruction to humble them, so their egos go unchecked.

[Wounded Ronin]

Thanks, nice avatar by the way

Thanks! I've had it for years because I can't think of anything cooler to put up. Also I hate people changing their avatars all the time.

[Rivington]

Also I hate people changing their avatars all the time.

Damn you!