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    defending against a takedown

    I hope this is the correct forum.
    I have a pretty fair amount of stand up training and abillty, and I have rolled a little in BJJ. However, I started late, and due to TKR, am leery of any more formal training in groud fighting.
    As I alluded to, in a stand up situation, I have a fair amount of confidence that I can handle myself enough to be okay, but I was wondering what are some thoughts on 1) keeping the fight from going to the ground, and 2) my accuracy in thinking because of TKR I cannot train in grappling.
    Any help would be appreciated, and as I said, hope this is the right forum.

    #2
    Sprawl.

    And prepare to be assraped in YMAS.
    SEANBABY:

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      #3
      You're going to have to be more specific. In Judo alone there are 67 ways to take the fight to the ground.

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        #4
        Against a rush, against a grab and pull?

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          #5
          Sprawling and hip blocks will take you far, sez the judonoob.
          What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates

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            #6
            Does that mean I am, in fact, in the wrong forum?
            Originally posted by jkdbuck76 View Post
            Sprawl.

            And prepare to be assraped in YMAS.

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              #7
              You sound like you need to train judo or something if you want to actually have any chance of stopping a takedown. Maybe that's not possible what with your knee--see a sports specialist--but them's the breaks.
              What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates

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                #8
                Okay, I'll take this somewhere else and reconstruct my inquiry

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                  #9
                  Sprawl is great against a single, double, and various low-line takedown attempts. It is vital to know, as against many wrestlers this will be a very common takedown. But...

                  A sprawl will do almost nothing for you against several dozen (or several hundred with variations) other takedowns that are standard fare in Judo, Greco, Sumo, and numerous other grappling systems. In fact, for many throws, a sprawl may lead to a greater likelihood of getting taken down. I personally love duck under spoke-style throws. If someone sprawls, it just makes them easier.

                  The truth is that grappling, just like striking, is a complex and multi-faceted art form. One technique will not work in all situations. To be able to understand how to defend against a certain tactic (takedowns), you need to understand the variables that make them work. i.e. You probably need some grappling training.

                  Knowing a sprawl is a good start. But I'd advise learning how to step around a hip throw, how to break grips and clinches, and a lot of other basic grappling.

                  Please consult with your doctor and a knowledgeable grappling (takedown) instructor, asking them specifically what might put your knee at risk.

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                    #10
                    You need to get a custom-made brace made by medical professionals and practice defending take-downs from people who know how to do them.
                    "We often joke -- and we really wish it were a joke -- that you will only encounter two basic problems with your 'self-defense' training.
                    1) That it doesn't work
                    2) That it does work"
                    -Animal MacYoung

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                      #11
                      In my somewhat limited experience I have found knee injuries occur when one does not know when to throw in the towel and just let oneself get taken down.
                      "We often joke -- and we really wish it were a joke -- that you will only encounter two basic problems with your 'self-defense' training.
                      1) That it doesn't work
                      2) That it does work"
                      -Animal MacYoung

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                        #12
                        I wonder if I should put this up as my signiture...

                        If you don't grapple - GRAPPLE!

                        If you DO grapple - GRAPPLE MORE!
                        Originally posted by MrBadGuy
                        The Dog kid's mom is parked next to me in the parking lot. He runs up and asks me a question. "Hey dude, where did you learn that stuff?"

                        "That was grappling. Real MMA."

                        "Where do I go for that?"

                        I was a little shocked. Sure, he changed sides quickly, but I guess even a dog can realize it has more in common with the wolf than with the shephard.

                        I give him the names of some BJJ schools in the area, and we go our separate ways.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Siniq View Post
                          I wonder if I should put this up as my signiture...

                          If you don't grapple - GRAPPLE!

                          If you DO grapple - GRAPPLE MORE!
                          I don't know if its signature worthy, but its a good way of putting it. If you're worried about getting grappled, learn to grapple. You can't strictly stick to standup fighting with limited grappling and wrestling and expect to be able to stay on your feet against people who grapple regularly. It just doesn't work that way.
                          "Intelligence is nothing more than discussing things with others. Limitless wisdom comes of this." - 山本 常朝

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                            #14
                            What is TKR??

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                              #15
                              Getting your hips lower then his helps with most throws and takedowns but makes some easier. also not letting them get a grip certainly helps (eg: roll your wirsts to prevent them gripping there) and when they do push away cross face etc...

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