Chris Haueter on sport/street/art (BJJ)

[DCS]

I was surfing the yt and found a Chris Haueter seminar bunch of worth watching clips.

Now, as I'm not native english speaker, I need some help with what Haueter is exactly saying about sport/street/art of BJJ at the beginning (from 0:00 to 0:50) of this one:

YouTube - Chris Haueter at Factory BJJ - Seminar introduction/ stand up warm up drill

Can someone put here an accurate transcription of Haueter's words for me to read?

Thanks.

[cam4276]

He basically said that in sport fighting you use all of your attributes (strength, conditioning, speed) in conjuction with your skills and knowledge but in street fighting you should try and use as little attributes as possible (rely on knowledge and technique more than strength, speed and conditioning).

Cant be bothered writing a full transcription...

If anyone thinks i have misunderstood what he said please feel free to correct me.

[Student]

He basically said that in sport fighting you use all of your attributes (strength, conditioning, speed) in conjuction with your skills and knowledge but in street fighting you should try and use as little attributes as possible (rely on knowledge and technique more than strength, speed and conditioning).

Cant be bothered writing a full transcription...

If anyone thinks i have misunderstood what he said please feel free to correct me.

I agree with what you came up with for the sport fighting but what you said about street I thought he meant that for the 'art' of BJJ and for the street it was just that there are no rules so win by any means.

[cam4276]

word for word transcription:

"and in the sport the goal is to within the rules of the game to utilise your attributes, your knowledge, your mind, body and spirit to win your match.
and in the street it's without rules at all, no mma rules, win at all means
in the art it's use the least amount of attributes you win your... to gain control over your opponent.
So we're going to do mainly the art but a little bit more sport too in there."

OK, i think i have it now. What he is trying to say is this:

1) In sport we use our strength, speed, etc combined with our technical ability to win within the rules of the fight

2) In the street you use whatever you have to to win.

3) The ART of BJJ is the technical skill without attributes (training without attributes is the best way to improve technically). It took me a long time to learn this...:icon_scra if only i could have trained with Chris.

[DCS]

Thanks guys.

[Vorpal]

The ART of BJJ is the technical skill without attributes (training without attributes is the best way to improve technically).

Well done.

[1point2]

word for word transcription:

"and in the sport the goal is to within the rules of the game to utilise your attributes, your knowledge, your mind, body and spirit to win your match.
and in the street it's without rules at all, no mma rules, win at all means
in the art it's use the least amount of attributes you win your... to gain control over your opponent.
So we're going to do mainly the art but a little bit more sport too in there."

OK, i think i have it now. What he is trying to say is this:

1) In sport we use our strength, speed, etc combined with our technical ability to win within the rules of the fight

2) In the street you use whatever you have to to win.

3) The ART of BJJ is the technical skill without attributes (training without attributes is the best way to improve technically). It took me a long time to learn this...:icon_scra if only i could have trained with Chris.

I really like this distinction between the three. I've known this for a while in a vague way, but he just nailed it.

I like how it separates training both philosophically (in competition try as hard as you can, in the street hit em with a brick, for the art try to rely on skill) and in terms of training priority (for competition, train skill + attributes, for street...train sport, for ability/art train skill).

[SBG-ape]

I can't watch the video at work but Haueter is a really cool guy. Both the blackbelts I train under are his students. The last time he was in Portland, he gave this art/sport/street speach & then explained what to do if you were really worried about being trained for the street.

He said if you're concerned that you're leaving yourself open to foul tactics then every couple of months you can do jits-with-hits rolling with the rules that: if an opponent can cover you eyes for a spoken 3 count it's a deadly eye-gouge, if they can bitch choke you that long they just ripped your throat out & if they can get a three count with their hand on the upper part of your inner thigh then they just snatched the peach.

We tried it a little, with a lot of laughing. Shockingly, when faced with an opponent who was a better grappler, it was hard to make the foul tactics work & if you were the better grappler you didn't need the foul tactics.
:icon_bigg

[Flail_Crapple]

I can't watch the video at work but Haueter is a really cool guy. Both the blackbelts I train under are his students. The last time he was in Portland, he gave this art/sport/street speach & then explained what to do if you were really worried about being trained for the street.

He said if you're concerned that you're leaving yourself open to foul tactics then every couple of months you can do jits-with-hits rolling with the rules that: if an opponent can cover you eyes for a spoken 3 count it's a deadly eye-gouge, if they can bitch choke you that long they just ripped your throat out & if they can get a three count with their hand on the upper part of your inner thigh then they just snatched the peach.

We tried it a little, with a lot of laughing. Shockingly, when faced with an opponent who was a better grappler, it was hard to make the foul tactics work & if you were the better grappler you didn't need the foul tactics.
:icon_bigg

Ya I found this video series on youtube that seems to cover a lot of the same ground: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFI2U8C3Wwo

I'd be actually frightened to try to deploy a weapon or try a dirty tactic if I was tied up in a street fight with some of the better grapplers that I have rolled with. I figure that the chances of me being successful are lower than the chances that they would get pissed off and seriously maim me.

[1point2]

Ya I found this video series on youtube that seems to cover a lot of the same ground: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFI2U8C3Wwo

I'd be actually frightened to try to deploy a weapon or try a dirty tactic if I was tied up in a street fight with some of the better grapplers that I have rolled with. I figure that the chances of me being successful are lower than the chances that they would get pissed off and seriously maim me.

That is one awesome vid. I bet his pro-gi bias has waned, but that's an awesome description of grappling for combat. I hereby declare it required viewing for all anti-grapplers.

As for your last statement above (which I bolded)--it sounds like you, from a totally different direction, have come across the most common reason female victims of violence (domestic, sexual, etc) give for not fighting back or for not reporting. It's very true to how many people's minds work in a violent situation. Replace "better grappler" with "male" or "bigger stronger faster male" and you're done.

[Flail_Crapple]

As for your last statement above (which I bolded)--it sounds like you, from a totally different direction, have come across the most common reason female victims of violence (domestic, sexual, etc) give for not fighting back or for not reporting. It's very true to how many people's minds work in a violent situation. Replace "better grappler" with "male" or "bigger stronger faster male" and you're done.

I can believe that and I don't envy them.

Though before I sound like a total wuss, I'm going to state for the record that I have a pretty good track record of stepping up to the plate and cheating like a madman when other people around me have frozen up at the threat of serious violence. Some of those times I've taken a hell of beating for it too.

[Jiujitsu77]

Chris Heuter is awesome, got my second stripe on my purple from him.
His BJJ for the street is good stuff.

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[Diesel_tke]

Great points of view...

Do you have more?