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    Another "Too deadly" "I have the real"...do I neeed to name the style? China version

    I know that this is my first post on this board so I should probably take it easy, but as I actually live and study Wing Chun in Guangzhou, Mainland China and have studied with actual lifelong Foshan masters, please allow me to say that there is not a one of you that actually knows what the hell you are talking about. My holy God is this site appropriately named.

    WC is never practiced at full speed because at full speed it kills and cripples people. It is not practiced in Mainland China or Hong Kong (2 very different and distinct styles of WC) the way it is practiced in the west. In the west it is often taught as a way to fight in retreat or as a means of self defense. Here it is taught as an aggressive way to brutally beat the crap out of anyone that would f**k with you. WC is filled with throat and temple strikes and elbow and wrist breaks. WC is not MMA or UFC and cannot be used in the ring. It is why they don't hold full contact tournaments here. True practitioners would kill each other.

    It was originally taught to western people that were, in effect, invaders and profiteer colonialists. Why would you teach your overlords how to hurt and kill your family, friends and countrymen. Bruce Lee, who brought WC to the west, was an American. He was trained as such. He openly stated this. Once he got rich and famous he was accepted as Chinese and trained as one. It is well known that he died before ever being able to pass that training on to others.

    In the school the Sifu is father. The other students your brothers and sisters. Would you want to kill or cripple your own brother, or even hurt him. You people not only know nothing of WC, you know nothing of Chinese Kung Fu philosophy, ideals or honor. WC is practiced the way it is because we are family.

    When I hear or read about "real, practical fighting application" I know for sure that I am listening to someone egotistical that really does not know anything. It is certain that anyone claiming WC is not a practical means of fighting, knows nothing about Wing Chun.

    #2
    Originally posted by markkf1 View Post
    I know that this is my first post on this board so I should probably take it easy, but as I actually live and study Wing Chun in Guangzhou, Mainland China and have studied with actual lifelong Foshan masters, please allow me to say that there is not a one of you that actually knows what the hell you are talking about. My holy God is this site appropriately named.

    WC is never practiced at full speed because at full speed it kills and cripples people. It is not practiced in Mainland China or Hong Kong (2 very different and distinct styles of WC) the way it is practiced in the west. In the west it is often taught as a way to fight in retreat or as a means of self defense. Here it is taught as an aggressive way to brutally beat the crap out of anyone that would f**k with you. WC is filled with throat and temple strikes and elbow and wrist breaks. WC is not MMA or UFC and cannot be used in the ring. It is why they don't hold full contact tournaments here. True practitioners would kill each other.

    It was originally taught to western people that were, in effect, invaders and profiteer colonialists. Why would you teach your overlords how to hurt and kill your family, friends and countrymen. Bruce Lee, who brought WC to the west, was an American. He was trained as such. He openly stated this. Once he got rich and famous he was accepted as Chinese and trained as one. It is well known that he died before ever being able to pass that training on to others.

    In the school the Sifu is father. The other students your brothers and sisters. Would you want to kill or cripple your own brother, or even hurt him. You people not only know nothing of WC, you know nothing of Chinese Kung Fu philosophy, ideals or honor. WC is practiced the way it is because we are family.

    When I hear or read about "real, practical fighting application" I know for sure that I am listening to someone egotistical that really does not know anything. It is certain that anyone claiming WC is not a practical means of fighting, knows nothing about Wing Chun.
    *drools* your in for a thrashing, if someone can be bothered

    Another too d34dly believer

    edit: I just read the post in it's entirety, very entertaining
    Last edited by Onr3e; 4/21/2009 12:20am, .

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      #3
      Originally posted by markkf1 View Post
      ...an aggressive way to brutally beat the crap out of anyone that would f**k with you...
      Yes.

      Welcome to Bullshido.

      How about you share some of your personal experiences about fighting somebody competent (healthy, not under influence of chemicals, strong, with MA experience and the intent to win the fight)?

      Also, if you're so proud of your "lifelong Foshan masters", I'd expect to at least name some of them...

      CLICK & WATCH
      :
      I got BULLSHIDO ON TV!!!

      "Bruce Lee sucks because I slammed my nuts with nunchucks trying to do that stupid shit back in the day. I still managed to have two kids. I forgive you Bruce.
      " - by Vorpal

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        #4
        markkf1, please go to newbietown and introduce your self, tell us about your martial arts experience, your training and your instructors.

        Oh yeah, too deadly to spar. *Yawn*, why yes, I wonder why no one has brought up this interesting point of view before? I wonder why Wing Chun is the only art in the world that is so deadly? I wonder why you even bothered to post without doing any reading? I wonder why your parents allowed you live after realizing they had given birth to another mental zombie?

        Read more, post less.



        *SIGH!* Another, I have the real deadly wing chun moron joins the forum. Oh happy day.

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          #5
          Good lord you are an idiot.

          It has been a while since I have heard, "we taught foreigners fake kung fu." That doesn't explain why , WC sucks in 100% of the world, in 99% of the schools. I guess they fooled us foreigners so bad, they fooled themselves.

          Oh and can Chunners read? No. Seriously.

          WTF is your problems. A chunner, who has almost a decade in the style, started this thread.

          Yet, this thread always gets hit because, people think it is anti-chunners writing threads.

          Get the fuck out of this forum.
          Last edited by It is Fake; 4/21/2009 8:25am, .

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            #6
            Well congratulations dude. You're so amazingly lucky that you are one of the few elite individuals that gets to train in this amazingly deadly elite martial art!
            Who's egotistical?

            Enjoy studying garbage and eating goats testicles in your overpopulated hell hole!

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              #7
              Originally posted by markkf1 View Post
              WC is never practiced at full speed because at full speed it kills and cripples people.
              Do you think you're the first person who's made this claim here?

              Please answer with a simple yes or no after searching "deadly wing chun" on the forum.

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                #8
                Originally posted by markkf1 View Post
                WC is never practiced at full speed because at full speed it kills and cripples people.
                Um, genius, do you see what you did there?

                Probably not. Okay *sigh* I'll take the bait:

                How can you claim that something, practised at full speed, kills and cripples people...just after writing that it is "never practised at full speed"?

                Can I play too? Here goes:

                "I never throw rocks, full-power, at airliners flying overhead...because if I did so, I'd bring the planes down."

                ...we are family.
                Including the next line of that song would suit you and your school perfectly.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by markkf1 View Post
                  Bruce Lee, who brought WC to the west, was an American. He was trained as such. He openly stated this. Once he got rich and famous he was accepted as Chinese and trained as one. It is well known that he died before ever being able to pass that training on to others.
                  I demand you provide proof for the bolded claim.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by markkf1 View Post
                    When I hear or read about "real, practical fighting application" I know for sure that I am listening to someone egotistical that really does not know anything.
                    I'm always amused by irony in which the posters themselves don't get.
                    Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.
                    "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

                    "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

                    My Bullshido fan club threads:
                    Tom Kagan's a big hairy...
                    Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
                    Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
                    Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
                    Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a pussy or just cruising for some
                    I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
                    TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
                    ATTN TOM KAGAN
                    World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
                    Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
                    I am infatuated with Tom Kagan
                    Tom Kagan is a fat balding white guy.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by markkf1 View Post

                      In the school the Sifu is father. The other students your brothers and sisters. Would you want to kill or cripple your own brother, or even hurt him. You people not only know nothing of WC, you know nothing of Chinese Kung Fu philosophy, ideals or honor. WC is practiced the way it is because we are family.
                      Know nothing, eh? Then let me answer this particular claim in literary Chinese.
                      子曰:父父子子, 师师生生.
                      如师为父,师何为师?

                      (translation)
                      Confucius said: let the father be the father and the son be the son, the teacher be the teacher and the student be the student.
                      How can the teacher be the teacher if the teacher is the father?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by markkf1 View Post
                        I know that this is my first post on this board so I should probably take it easy, but as I actually live and study Wing Chun in Guangzhou, Mainland China and have studied with actual lifelong Foshan masters, please allow me to say that there is not a one of you that actually knows what the hell you are talking about. My holy God is this site appropriately named.

                        WC is never practiced at full speed because at full speed it kills and cripples people. It is not practiced in Mainland China or Hong Kong (2 very different and distinct styles of WC) the way it is practiced in the west. In the west it is often taught as a way to fight in retreat or as a means of self defense. Here it is taught as an aggressive way to brutally beat the crap out of anyone that would f**k with you. WC is filled with throat and temple strikes and elbow and wrist breaks. WC is not MMA or UFC and cannot be used in the ring. It is why they don't hold full contact tournaments here. True practitioners would kill each other.

                        It was originally taught to western people that were, in effect, invaders and profiteer colonialists. Why would you teach your overlords how to hurt and kill your family, friends and countrymen. Bruce Lee, who brought WC to the west, was an American. He was trained as such. He openly stated this. Once he got rich and famous he was accepted as Chinese and trained as one. It is well known that he died before ever being able to pass that training on to others.

                        In the school the Sifu is father. The other students your brothers and sisters. Would you want to kill or cripple your own brother, or even hurt him. You people not only know nothing of WC, you know nothing of Chinese Kung Fu philosophy, ideals or honor. WC is practiced the way it is because we are family.

                        When I hear or read about "real, practical fighting application" I know for sure that I am listening to someone egotistical that really does not know anything. It is certain that anyone claiming WC is not a practical means of fighting, knows nothing about Wing Chun.
                        My god! Not only did your compelling argument completely convince me, but I'm being totally honest without the slightest hint of sarcasm!

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by TheMightyMcClaw View Post
                          How can the teacher be the teacher if the teacher is the father?

                          Heh, "sifu" literally translates as "teacher-father".

                          In other words: "mentor".

                          ... or more specifically to an athletic endeavor: "coach".
                          Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.
                          "Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

                          "Tom Kagan spins in his grave and the fucking guy isn't even dead yet." -- Snake Plissken

                          My Bullshido fan club threads:
                          Tom Kagan's a big hairy...
                          Tom Kagan can lick my BALLS
                          Tom Kagan teaches _ing __un and bigotry?
                          Tom Kagan: Serious discussion here
                          Lamokio asks the burning question is Tom Kagan a pussy or just cruising for some
                          I'm Dave the gay Kickboxer from Manchester and I have the hots for Tom Kagan
                          TOM KAGAN, OPEN ME, THE MKT ARE COMING FOR YOU ! ARE YOU MAN ENOUGH TO MEET ?
                          ATTN TOM KAGAN
                          World Dominator 'Kagan' in plot to lie about real Kung Fu and Martial Arts
                          Tom Kagan just gave me my third negative rep in a day
                          I am infatuated with Tom Kagan
                          Tom Kagan is a fat balding white guy.

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                            #14
                            2/10: minor points for addressing all the required topic but low overall score for unoriginality.

                            Besides, isn't this site blocked in China or something?
                            Last edited by rw4th; 4/21/2009 8:55am, .

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                              #15
                              Hey Mark, why didn't the r34l Hong Kong Wing Chun work here?

                              YouTube - Wing Chun in F.Q part 5

                              Was it because:

                              A. The magical chi fairies that live in gloves took away their chunner Jing and weakened their d34dly.

                              B. They're not the r34l Chinese Wing Chun school, because they don't have <insert abstract chunner concept> and all they do is <insert description of techniques that all chunners use except at YOUR school>.

                              C. There wasn't any lava or syringes on the ground, therefore it was an unrealistic testing environment.


                              Choose your chunner excuse!
                              Last edited by NJM; 4/21/2009 8:58am, .

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