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  • It is Fake
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    Originally posted by manlobeiro View Post
    It is a Fake, calm yourself down.
    I have not delivered the emails earlier because i wanted everybody to check for itself and not just take my word for it, so that i was not accused of being a liar, or forging evidence, or whatever.
    I thought you understod the rules. Produce the evidence it is reserached and confirmed.

    This is an excuse.

    ironic.
    Yes, we both know you don't understand the usage of the word.

    I demand nothing, i just hope you do what you think is right and calm down.
    Cheers
    Yes, you want this back because "it is the right thing." That is your opinion.

    That is a demand.

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  • manlobeiro
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    Originally posted by It is Fake View Post
    Let's make sure you understand. You complained, yelled, made accusations against my character, and you are now making demands.

    Facts are facts.

    I asked you for proof, explained my position, and you attacke my character. You then refused to provide the evidence, I then moved the thread. A week later, you finally did.

    In the basic terms, I slapped your wrist and you complied. Now, you are demanding instant satisfaction.

    I waited on purpose.

    Now, you learned another lesson treat others how you want to be treated. This thread would have never been moved IF YOU PROVIDED THE EMAILS BACK IN FEBRUARY.

    I would have never came onto the thread because, you had proof. Other members, who speak Portuguese, would have helped and you wouldn't be going it as you say "alone."

    Yet, when you balk, for almost three months, people think you are lying. Yes, sorry, that is the way it goes.





    That is your fault and why I entered the thread. We do not need petty bickering in MABS. Do you understand this now? The blame is squarely at your feet.

    You posted this in February. If you would have posted these emails IN FEBRUARY" those people would have had to produce proof refuting you emails.




    Are you implying you wouldn't do the same? I mean this is a ridiculous argument. If I call you a fraud and won't produce evidence well that makes the situation my fault.

    That allows people to say:
    I have a grudge.
    I have no proof.
    I'm a hater.

    You should have acted right back in February? Yeah, that is one of many answers.

    You started the thread on February 11. You posted the proof April 08 after much complaining.

    Sarcasm doesn't suit you when it is your fault.

    Here let me fix your post:





    Funny how it took him 3 months to produce the evidence.
    Funny how that isn't taken into account.
    It is a Fake, calm yourself down.
    I have not delivered the emails earlier because i wanted everybody to check for itself and not just take my word for it, so that i was not accused of being a liar, or forging evidence, or whatever.

    Ironic.
    I demand nothing, i just hope you do what you think is right and calm down.
    Cheers

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  • It is Fake
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    Originally posted by manlobeiro View Post
    The evidence was not put in the begining because it involves organizations and people. I had to contact Sensei Menau, Sensei Alain and the portuguese Jujutsu Federation. I have put the answer in this thread, just like i received it.
    Any person can contact the same people and organizations. I cannot, because they already answered me. Again, feel free to confirm.
    As it was mentioned before, you can disagree with me at your will.
    I just said, that you must prove why you disagree, and a subjective evidence like an opinion does not count.
    This thread was moved and i was asked to present evidence, wich i did.
    Three emails from different organizations/people.
    Let's make sure you understand. You complained, yelled, made accusations against my character, and you are now making demands.

    Facts are facts.

    I asked you for proof, explained my position, and you attacke my character. You then refused to provide the evidence, I then moved the thread. A week later, you finally did.

    In the basic terms, I slapped your wrist and you complied. Now, you are demanding instant satisfaction.

    I waited on purpose.

    Now, you learned another lesson treat others how you want to be treated. This thread would have never been moved IF YOU PROVIDED THE EMAILS BACK IN FEBRUARY.

    I would have never came onto the thread because, you had proof. Other members, who speak Portuguese, would have helped and you wouldn't be going it as you say "alone."

    Yet, when you balk, for almost three months, people think you are lying. Yes, sorry, that is the way it goes.



    Two people that have registered in March and April have contributed to this present state, and they no longer say anything.
    My 'agressive' stand, is not agressive at all, its just a consequence of several coordinated attempts to blur this evidence.

    I have been threatened, and ridicularized, because i decided to make all this public and wide known.
    That is your fault and why I entered the thread. We do not need petty bickering in MABS. Do you understand this now? The blame is squarely at your feet.

    You posted this in February. If you would have posted these emails IN FEBRUARY" those people would have had to produce proof refuting you emails.


    Mr. Nunes and his friends through internet and in the real world, have made and are making their moves so that his image comes out clean, and i look like a jealous one.
    Are you implying you wouldn't do the same? I mean this is a ridiculous argument. If I call you a fraud and won't produce evidence well that makes the situation my fault.

    That allows people to say:
    I have a grudge.
    I have no proof.
    I'm a hater.

    Thats why sometimes i come a bit rough, i am tired of roaming alone.
    I apologize for that, and maintain what i say, he is a fraud.

    I have presented what was requested, its up to the readers and Mods to decide if its worth to move it or not to MABS, as someone wrote before, what else should i do, get a written confession?

    Cheers
    You should have acted right back in February? Yeah, that is one of many answers.

    You started the thread on February 11. You posted the proof April 08 after much complaining.

    Sarcasm doesn't suit you when it is your fault.

    Here let me fix your post:

    I have presented what was requested

    added by it is fake Three months later.
    Manlobeiro, is making a right job, in exposing this fraud. And he deserves that his tread is back to the fraud category instead o ymas. Or do you expect a written confession of Helder Nunes himself??
    Funny how it took him 3 months to produce the evidence.
    Funny how that isn't taken into account.
    Last edited by It is Fake; 4/15/2009 11:39am, .

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  • manlobeiro
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    Originally posted by MrJ View Post
    It ended up in YMAS because the OP didn't post his evidence, despite repeated requests to do so and the mods' explanation of the rules, until much later.

    Just because people do not accept your assertations without proof, or dare to disagree with you it does not mean that there is a counter campaign. That is silly.

    I, for one, would be pleased if the mods did decide to put this thread (or a portion therof) back into MABS. Perhaps if other contributions to this thread provided new information or corroborated your claims they would have a reason to consider it. It would be better than reading pages of posts stating that evidence exists, everybody go out and find it yourself.
    The evidence was not put in the begining because it involves organizations and people. I had to contact Sensei Menau, Sensei Alain and the portuguese Jujutsu Federation. I have put the answer in this thread, just like i received it.
    Any person can contact the same people and organizations. I cannot, because they already answered me. Again, feel free to confirm.
    As it was mentioned before, you can disagree with me at your will.
    I just said, that you must prove why you disagree, and a subjective evidence like an opinion does not count.
    This thread was moved and i was asked to present evidence, wich i did.
    Three emails from different organizations/people.

    (it took a week because the answer of the person/organization did not depended of me)

    Two people that have registered in March and April have contributed to this present state, and they no longer say anything.
    My 'agressive' stand, is not agressive at all, its just a consequence of several coordinated attempts to blur this evidence.

    I have been threatened (by email), and ridicularized, because i decided to make all this public and wide known.
    Mr. Nunes and his friends through internet and in the real world, have made and are making their moves so that his image comes out clean, and i look like a jealous one.
    (in portuguese foruns for example http://combatportugal.proboards.com/index.cgi , unfourtunately is in portuguese)

    Thats why sometimes i come a bit rough, i am tired of roaming alone.
    I apologize for that, and maintain what i say, he is a fraud.

    I have presented what was requested, its up to the readers and Mods to decide if its worth to move it or not to MABS, as someone wrote before, what else should i do, get a written confession?

    Cheers
    Last edited by manlobeiro; 4/15/2009 11:27am, .

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  • It is Fake
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    Originally posted by MrJ View Post
    It would be better than reading pages of posts stating that evidence exists, everybody go out and find it yourself.
    ...and MrJ wins the prize.

    Accusations without proof are what? Accusations. MABS is not for accusations. End of story.

    Yes, I didn't respond because, I wanted to see your reaction. You calm down and quit complaining it will go back.

    It took you a week to get the emails up. It took me a week to respond.

    Irony.

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  • MrJ
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    Originally posted by manlobeiro View Post
    Well, not be a pain, but i presented what was requested from me.
    KellyD and Stungun did a counter campaign (my oppinion) and this thread was put in YMAS, wich it seems to be not as 'serious' as it was before.
    I have contacted via PM It Is a Fake, the Mod, i got no answer.

    It seems to me unfair, i got the trouble to confirm my accusations, contacting the persons and organizations involved.

    Now, not a word about this subject.
    At least a Mod should put it where it was initially.

    To your consideration
    Cheers
    It ended up in YMAS because the OP didn't post his evidence, despite repeated requests to do so and the mods' explanation of the rules, until much later.

    Just because people do not accept your assertations without proof, or dare to disagree with you it does not mean that there is a counter campaign. That is silly.

    I, for one, would be pleased if the mods did decide to put this thread (or a portion therof) back into MABS. Perhaps if other contributions to this thread provided new information or corroborated your claims they would have a reason to consider it. It would be better than reading pages of posts stating that evidence exists, everybody go out and find it yourself.

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