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    Aikido-bashing got me banned from a supposed MMA site

    I got banned from this site for the following statement about aikido vs. MMA:

    Aikido fails of the basic burden of proof, i.e. they don't substantiate their claims, that it's as effective in self-defense as MMA; and therefore the claim must be taken as false.
    Likewise, the problem with the "well it's not meant for use against MMA," also fails because either this means that it's simply better to train in MMA, or that Aikido is better on the street but not in competitive testing (in which case then they haven't substantiated that claim either).
    So basically their argument can't be accepted, because they haven't met their burden of proof (and anecdotes are not proof).
    As for Aikido technique, it can usually be very much simplified under technical fighting, while the Aikido-mysticism about "harmony" and "energy" is simply more confusing than constructive, compared to terms like "momentum" and "relative motion." I can usually teach someone more in 10 minutes of technical fighting, than 10 years of traditional methods.
    However if you want to start a cult, to cash in on gullible students who spend a lot of money because they saw Seagal-movies-- rather than condemning them/him as the anathema that they are, to your purported philosophy of "non-violence--" then Aikido is great for psyching out suckers who'll believe anything, and don't mind dogmatic hypocrisy as well as psychadelic brainwashing... or playing Russian Roulette with their lives in self-defense situations.


    As you can see at the link, the moderator's dogma started chasing my karma, and it looks like aikido's hippie-line, is JUST a line.

    Has anyone else had similar experiences at other sites?
    Last edited by kungfu2u; 3/05/2009 7:59pm, .

    #2
    cool man.

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      #3
      Interesting.

      BTW, what "technical fighting" is?, a style, a system, a method....? ellaborate, plz.

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        #4
        This thread needs more wing chun.

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          #5
          Originally posted by 3moose1 View Post
          This thread needs more wing chun.
          Oh god no! Do not summon it. It already posessed too many other threads.

          Nothing to see here... move along.

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            #6
            This thread reminds me of my wing chun skills,
            I was sparring against a 10 year veteran in aikido....using only my wing chun style.
            after 2 long minutes of combat....it was a tie!
            AIKIDO PWNS WING CHUN
            but i prefer ninjitsu...its way more effective

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              #7
              Ah gods nooo!! What have you done Moose?? What have you done?!?!?!?

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                #8
                Everybody have fun tonight;
                everybody wing chun tonight!

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                  #9
                  ok, I can think of 2 trolls who are definitely bullies that just got bored.

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                    #10
                    The post was kind of trollish. You tried to put the burden of proof on working on Aikido (as it should be for ALL martial arts) then made a crazy claim of being able to teach ore in 10 minutes than in 10 years. That was a great way to grab that burden back!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by DCS View Post
                      Interesting.

                      BTW, what "technical fighting" is?, a style, a system, a method....? ellaborate, plz.
                      Is that a trick question?

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                        #12
                        You lasted three whole posts on that site?

                        I enjoy their attitude toward proof. You say Aikido is ineffective, they want citations. You keep your lips locked on the kool-aid bottle and they just smile.

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                          #13
                          Actually this could be a new sport. How fast can you get banned? I think kungfu2u has set a pretty high bar for us though.

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                            #14
                            I think we should also have a goal for how long you can troll without getting banned too. There is great potential in this...

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by MrGalt View Post
                              You lasted three whole posts on that site?

                              I enjoy their attitude toward proof. You say Aikido is ineffective, they want citations. You keep your lips locked on the kool-aid bottle and they just smile.
                              Science and logic are such "Western" concepts, you see, and they think they should be given the benefit of the doubt, rather than having to prove their claims (how gauche).

                              That's why it's a cult, since declaration and forced acceptance without proof, is dogma.
                              Also there's the whole fiasco with their acquiesence toward Seagal's violent self-written movies and lifestyle, so long as it continues to drive droves of noobs to their temple.

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