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    BJJ Article Idiocy

    This article was run in my local paper.

    http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...LeRowZ5DtHs%3D

    I love the idea that BJJ somehow originated in India.
    I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.

    #2
    Yeah, that is a bit stupid, though overall, the article is uniformly positive. I bet inquiries at that guy's school will go through the roof. Hell, I'd like to join.

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      #3
      I see you set them strait at the bottom. I wonder what the writer was getting at. I mean, if he was going to try to obscurely trace the origins of martial arts and try to map them around, I would think he would end up in Greece. Going back to pancration. But I don't think that would be appropriate to the article. That's a whole different subject and not relative to the audience.

      He should have just said that Brazilian Jiu-jitsu was developed in Brazil. But hey, he's the writer, not me.
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        #4
        www.bedrocjudo.com.
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        The India reference is making allusion to the mythological origin of Asian martial arts that became kung fu then karate. Boddhidarma and his breathing exercises, so the monks didn't become fatasses.

        A better mythological origin for BJJ would be the Tengu, the winged and beclawed demons who taught the Japanese founder of jiujitsu (which century?).
        What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates

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          #5
          Originally posted by ignatzami View Post
          This article was run in my local paper.

          http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...LeRowZ5DtHs%3D

          I love the idea that BJJ somehow originated in India.
          Originally posted by shaolin nuthugger
          Jiu-jitsu can be traced back centuries to India, where Buddhist monks created self-defense techniques based on balance, not strength.
          lol. somehow it all traces back to kung fu

          also:

          Even seasoned martial arts practitioners see the practical advantages of BJJ.

          "I started out at 15 years old doing tae kwon do, which I received a black belt in," says Marc Yates, a pharmaceutical sales rep from Rochester. "I went on to study tang soo do, jeet kune do, boxing and kick boxing. I have studied BJJ for approximately four years now, and I have never found an art that is more applicable to real self-defense situations than BJJ. Plus, my girlfriend likes the shape it keeps me in."
          TKD blackbelts are serious seasoned martial artists, I TOLD YOU FUCKERS TO FEAR ME

          :icon_roll

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            #6
            Originally posted by ignatzami View Post
            I love the idea that BJJ somehow originated in India.
            It's all hidden in the super-secret Yoga bunkai.

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              #7
              It's like I said in the comments, not that it will matter, I appreciate the positive press but seriously, that one line just made my brain hurt!
              I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.

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                #8
                Article said Jiu Jitsu started in India not BJJ...probably meant the Greeks and Pankration which evolved to Jiu Jitsu in their mind.

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                  #9
                  For many many years, the India reference has been found in various non-martial art sources. Likely it came from a quick check of a Dictionary or an Encylopedia.

                  However, where ever jujutsu came from is not the issue. GJJ/BJJ came from Judo, not "jiu-jitsu."
                  "Out of every hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -- Hericletus, circa 500 BC

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by 1point2 View Post
                    A better mythological origin for BJJ would be the Tengu, the winged and beclawed demons who taught the Japanese founder of jiujitsu (which century?).
                    While Jigoro Kano, the inventor of Judo (and hence BJJ), was indeed a fearsome martial artist, there is little truth to the rumors that he had actual wings and claws.


                    Judo judo judo.

                    Judo.

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                      #11
                      I thought all martial arts originated in Korea in 6000BC. Maybe the author got confused about the part where wandering Korean monks taught meditation techniques to Sakyamuni, which led to his achieving enlightenment. Or the Korean warriors who served as mercenaries in Alexander's army and taught them pancration. Or the wandering Korean warrior monks who traveled to Britain and gave Excalibur to Arthur, along with the secrets of what was to become Celtic-do. :blob1:

                      IT'S ALL KOREA!!!!
                      Last edited by TEA; 2/25/2009 12:48pm, .
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                      Originally Posted by chuey
                      ...Well fuck if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi shit I have heard in ages.

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                      Three rights make a left.

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                        #12
                        The article portrays BJJ in a positive light but is otherwise total nonsense.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by TEA View Post
                          I thought all martial arts originated in Korea in 6000BC. Maybe the author got confused about the part where wandering Korean monks taught meditation techniques to Sakyamuni, which led to his achieving enlightenment. Or the Korean warriors who served as mercenaries in Alexander's army and taught them pancration. Or the wandering Korean warrior monks who traveled to Britain and gave Excalibur to Arthur, along with the secrets of what was to become Celtic-do. :blob1:

                          IT'S ALL KOREA!!!!
                          Actually Chuin, Master of Sinanju has written this all down in Ung Poetry.
                          "Out of every hundred men, ten shouldn't even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back." -- Hericletus, circa 500 BC

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                            #14
                            I wish Judo could get some good press, we have international level Kata and Shia competitors in Roc and we get nothing.... bothersome.
                            I do not aspire to be great, or even good, I hope to suck a little less then last class.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mtripp View Post
                              However, where ever jujutsu came from is not the issue. GJJ/BJJ came from Judo, not "jiu-jitsu."
                              Erm... Judo is a Jiu Jitsu Ryu. In the early days of its founding it ran under a pletora of different names, including "Kano-Ryu", "Kodokan-Ryu" and simply "Jiu-Jitsu".

                              Which also explains why the Brazilians named their art Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. They learned from Judoka's who were still used to call their Judo "Jiu Jitsu".

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