ATA taekwondo in MMA

[Demon Eyes]

And I quote:


Typical ATA bullshit. World Champion in what? That was a crappy match and an amateur match from what I could see. I tip my hat to Sean but this doesn't prove anything for ATA, yet.

That's a really good question, especially when ATA is concerned. "World Champions" in ATA is as common as the of 8 year old black belts in the ATA. I assure you that 90% of the ATA schools you walk in will have a "World Champion." You don't even need to ask if the school has one. The "World Champions" will walk around the school with a Gi that says "World Champion."
To my knowledge they have competitions in Weapon forms, traditional forms, XMA forms, and point sparring. Then dividing the competition up by age and rank.

Also, towards the OP, he won an MMA match. Good for him. He is capable within the amateur league. However, he is the exception other than the norm. Most ATA practitioners can't fight their way out of a paper bag.

[EternalRage]

I am curious to know what training Sean Smith has. If he went in there with only ATA and the MMA add-on the ATA has got going, then props to him for doing well with so little (even if it was against a guy who has questionable striking skills).

We can always pick apart the fight, but for once we have a representative of one of the most heavily criticized martial arts organizations actually trying to make his stuff work in the cage, with MMA rules (far cry from the ATA's usual no contact BS). I congratulate him on his win, and best of luck to him in the future.

[Diesel_tke]

This didn't look like an MMA fight to me. It looked like TKD in a cage. When they went to the ground they didn't show any kind of ground skills. I don't think the takedown was really planned because they were in that position clinching for a while before they went to the ground. Either one should have been able to do the takedown from there. I think they just fell down because their feet were tangled up.

Don't get me wrong. Props to the guy for stepping into the cage. I can not take that away from him. But to use this video as proof the TKD is going to prepare you for MMA. I don't think so. Put him against someone who has ground skills and knows how to keep his hands up. Then we will see. My guess is that he will get some ground training in first.

On a plus side. I did like his reaction to the knock out. He looked like he has done it before. He didn't spaz out like it was his first fight. That tells me that he has some legit training.

[Vorpal]

Edit due to self induced fail.

[Gezere]

Look these videos are exactly the same!
YouTube - Taekwondo Sparring Match 1

New thread ATA the future of MMA!!!!

[sempaiman]

The other guy did not look like he knew any grappling at all. SO basically this was a kickboxing match. Does not tell much about ATA.

[3moose1]

I've seen a fighter break his opponent's arm with a wakigatame.

Whats wrong with Waki Gatame?

[It is Fake]

I am curious to know what training Sean Smith has. If he went in there with only ATA and the MMA add-on the ATA has got going, then props to him for doing well with so little (even if it was against a guy who has questionable striking skills).

We can always pick apart the fight, but for once we have a representative of one of the most heavily criticized martial arts organizations actually trying to make his stuff work in the cage, with MMA rules (far cry from the ATA's usual no contact BS). I congratulate him on his win, and best of luck to him in the future.

No, it is not "for once." Do I need to start spamming the thread with good TKD fighters in MMA? Heck, I got pwend in a thread way back when I joined with a good TKDer.

See this is the failure in this thread. There are much better TKDers out there competing. We have thread after threads of these good TKDers fighting. Yes, props to him for competing and that's about it.

This is just like the WC threads (which you have been in) where the worst possible video is used to prove an all encompassing point.

[jason123]

I dont see how this was "the worst possible video"..but ok

[Wounded Ronin]

Yeah, an out-of-range spinning back kick is the lynchpin of success in MMA. Especially against a skilled opponent who knows how to pick his distance and who can transition fluidly from standup to grappling. Just like the opponent in that clip?

[jason123]

"lynchpin of success".......HAHA....yeah thats how it was meant.

ATA is the future of MMA....of course not...

here is an ATA guy winning a MMA match..but of course the other guy HAD to suck,right?

[Wounded Ronin]

"lynchpin of success".......HAHA....yeah thats how it was meant.

ATA is the future of MMA....of course not...

here is an ATA guy winning a MMA match..but of course the other guy HAD to suck,right?

So what you're saying is that an ATA taekwondo practitioner managed to survive for a few minutes against a haymaker-limited opponent in a cage, therefore ATA people can "handle themselves"?

[jason123]

sure dude...thats what Im saying

Exactly

[Diesel_tke]

"lynchpin of success".......HAHA....yeah thats how it was meant.

ATA is the future of MMA....of course not...

here is an ATA guy winning a MMA match..but of course the other guy HAD to suck,right?

No the other guy didn't have to suck. I just so happened in this video that he did.

[Wounded Ronin]

I'm glad I could help you clarify that, then. Because it sounded for a moment like you were suggesting that ATA wasn't just a soulless marketing juggernaut that was permanently committed to making money off politically correct parents who don't want their little munchkin to actually get any practice punching, kicking, and choking other little kids.