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    #31
    ok there is this other method to deal with assault, you lie down and be still and start moaning like you enjoy it, this way it will be over real quick.

    this was developed in Germany in 1945.

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      #32
      I believe (from watching the video) that the reason for turning into a stance is as the older teacher lady says... "You can stop an aproach just with your body language". So I guess the idea behind that would be to look like you are ready for a fight and that you know some sick ass kung fu.

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        #33
        Originally posted by recourse
        I believe (from watching the video) that the reason for turning into a stance is as the older teacher lady says... "You can stop an aproach just with your body language". So I guess the idea behind that would be to look like you are ready for a fight and that you know some sick ass kung fu.
        That's not a scairy stance and that voice is soooo HAWTTTT. It's like what japanese have as a fetish for school girls.

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          #34
          Or maybe they need to get used to that stance for the more advanced classes, one of the many techniques including the deadly upwards back elbow (Anderson Silva) and the spinning back kick (Cung Le).

          Actually they way they were standing reminded me of the kata Daniel-san did in the Karate Kid 2 (at least I think it was two) to win the tournament.

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            #35
            Originally posted by DarkXacreD
            Actually they way they were standing reminded me of the kata Daniel-san did in the Karate Kid 2 (at least I think it was two) to win the tournament.
            You mean the alternating heymakers?

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              #36
              no that was actually a good point.
              a pose itself can be threathening and make you look like a less obvious victim.

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                #37
                It's where 19 year olds who sell their mates an eighth of weed or go burning cars for fun get their REAL commupance.
                Now I got this image in my head where a deranged version of Bob Sapp is going ape-shit on the kids who were doing the paintball drive-bys in Video Justice.

                Edit: This is what I'm talking about:

                YouTube - Paintball Drive By Shooting
                Last edited by Holy Moment; 8/08/2008 3:08pm, .

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                  #38
                  If the self defense/awareness stuff starts them along a long-term martial arts study, it might be worth it. I believe that some douchebag would get his balls handed to him and then shot three or four times if he tried any crap with Anna T. It would be a good way to weed out a lot of the creeps from the neighborhoods.

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                    #39
                    that would be funny, 'hai kat i iz gonna rape you, heey, what is this veerd thing with the hands..no wait..ouch...no...no moar...i want my mumz.


                    i fucking hate sexoffenders.

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                      #40
                      These kinds of things at least make women think they can fight back and thinking you can fight back is the first step towards actually doing it. I guess the thing to keep in mind is that you don't have to beat the shit out of your attacker in a sexual assault situation, you just have to be loud and more trouble then your worth.

                      At the same time last year at ashly's family christmas get together her little 5'3" 105lb cousin discussed martial arts with us and told us that she knew "some moves that could kill someone' because of a little weekend course they had her do for work or something.

                      It hurt to hear, but at the same time I think this bullshit is better then nothing.

                      And karate...it's better then karate.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by AnnaTrocity
                        And karate...it's better then karate.
                        Actually, the "moves that could kill someone" thing sounds an awful lot like karate...

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by AnnaTrocity
                          These kinds of things at least make women think they can fight back and thinking you can fight back is the first step towards actually doing it. I guess the thing to keep in mind is that you don't have to beat the shit out of your attacker in a sexual assault situation, you just have to be loud and more trouble then your worth.
                          I'm not sure this is a good thing. Building some reflexes to supplant shock and paralysis is good, but unless the women in question are actually going to be able to win the fight, they should be going for a "scream and run" reflex instead. Granted, it didn't help Kitty Genovese, but I don't know that a bad self-defense class would have either.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by TheRuss
                            I'm not sure this is a good thing. Building some reflexes to supplant shock and paralysis is good, but unless the women in question are actually going to be able to win the fight, they should be going for a "scream and run" reflex instead. Granted, it didn't help Kitty Genovese, but I don't know that a bad self-defense class would have either.

                            Well, I'd like to assume that a woman wouldn't be stupid enough to drop into their self defense stance and make a mighty keeya! at the apparent threat of an oncoming attacker. I'd imagine most self defense scenarios for women would probably involve being grabbed, in which case having the mentality to actually do something proactive would be extremely helpful. I'm pretty sure women's self defense classes teach women the "scream and run" tactic first and foremost anyway.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by TheRuss
                              I'm not sure this is a good thing. Building some reflexes to supplant shock and paralysis is good, but unless the women in question are actually going to be able to win the fight, they should be going for a "scream and run" reflex instead. Granted, it didn't help Kitty Genovese, but I don't know that a bad self-defense class would have either.

                              Running away from a bear. You don't have to be faster than the bear, just faster than at least one other person. You don't have to be able to beat the mugger, just make it easier for him to find another victim. If the guy is going to get physical, then he probably was already and nothing casual is going to stop him. I don't see alot of scenarios where it makes things worse.

                              Unless you know Sirc.

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by KidSpatula
                                I'm pretty sure women's self defense classes teach women the "scream and run" tactic first and foremost anyway.
                                Do they? I've never taken one, so I honestly don't know. What I do know, speaking as a guy with some coaching experience, is this: if I were trying to establish scream-and-run as the first reflex when someone is being attacked, the class would consist of a lot of mock-attacking, screaming, and running. Perceive a credible threat, scream and run, repeat.

                                No joke. There's the default state of shock-paralysis (I once came home to a guy literally half my size breaking into my house, and stood there like a doofus as he fled straight past me), which is bad enough. Then there's the ingrained habits that can be just as bad - don't scream, don't draw attention to yourself, don't drop things you're holding. All of these are barriers to safe survival, and a good self-defense course will help you overcome them - not just by telling you, but by drilling the proper responses into you through repetition, repetition, and then repetition. Granted, "don't hurt other people" is another one to overcome, and the padded suits look to be pretty good as far as that goes, but again, from a coaching perspective, you do not want to condition someone's default response to a threat to be a kung-fu stance.

                                Originally posted by HappyOldGuy
                                Running away from a bear. You don't have to be faster than the bear, just faster than at least one other person. You don't have to be able to beat the mugger, just make it easier for him to find another victim. If the guy is going to get physical, then he probably was already and nothing casual is going to stop him. I don't see alot of scenarios where it makes things worse.
                                The bear thing, the mugging thing, the casual thing... I'm not getting it. Could you spell things out for me?
                                Last edited by TheRuss; 8/08/2008 5:37pm, .

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